Mark I'm guessing you'll know what I mean here. Was this a real database (say a peoplesoft or ebus clone)? Or a sample db. If it works with a real (sold) application that'd be fantastic. I'm errrr not convinced. On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 10:00 PM, Bobak, Mark <Mark.Bobak@xxxxxxxxxxxx>wrote: > Well, I gots ta tell ya, this old timer tried out the really new fangled > (11g only) duplicate database from active database feature of dat dere RMAN! > > > > Quick and easy! (Minimal setup needed. Need an spfile and password file, > and I think that's it.) > > > > Don't know about clonin' from flashback database…never tried that one….. > > > > -Mark > > *-- > Mark J. Bobak* > *Senior Database Administrator, System & Product Technologies* > ProQuest > 789 E. Eisenhower, Parkway, P.O. Box 1346 > Ann Arbor MI 48106-1346 > +1.734.997.4059 or +1.800.521.0600 x 4059 > mark.bobak@xxxxxxxxxxxx <mark.bobak@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > www.proquest.com > www.csa.com > > *ProQuest...*Start here. > > > > *From:* oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto: > oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Jerry Cunningham > *Sent:* Wednesday, December 10, 2008 4:08 PM > *To:* bbel5@xxxxxxxxxxxx > *Cc:* oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > *Subject:* Re: Timing for Cloning with Flashback Database vs other methods > > > > Ma'am, > > > > Wha-der they need it so danged fast fer, anyway? Why back in my day, we'd > pony express the tapes and they'd be lucky to get their fancy schmancy > duplicate database before the next full moon. Don' wanna spoil 'em... > > > > - A non-young non-whippersnapper > > > > > > On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 12:42 PM, Bellows, Bambi (Comsys) < > bbel5@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Hey there Listers! > > > > Cloning sure has more options nowadays than in the golden yesteryear, > doesn't it? There's the simple file copy with the controlfile you backed up > from trace… being the oldtimers' best friend; then there's the newfangled > "duplicate database" , which has the oldtimers smackin their gums talkin > about walkin to school in the snow, 5 miles each way, uphill, without > boots. And, as if that weren't enough, there's this snazzy glittery clone > achieved through flashback database, which has the oldtimers sittin in the > dark waitin fer the young dbas to change the lightbulbs. And fine. But. > Which one's fastest? We oldtimers could parallelize that copy and shove it > to background faster than you could say gollygeewillikers… can RMAN do > that? And what of this snazzydazzy flashback database for cloning? Can it > start with a blank slate, or does it need a database to be created and stuff > before it lets tear? And, really, seriously, what *are* the timings? One > would assume that if the target database exists and is pretty much kept up > to date, anything which just applies changes is going to be lickety-split > faster, but what if it's not? > > > > I'm off to soak my teeth for awhile, but I appreciate any insights you > whippersnappers might have… J > > Bambi. > > > -- Niall Litchfield Oracle DBA http://www.orawin.info