Re: Storage options?

  • From: Matthew Zito <mzito@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: HANDM@xxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 11:35:33 -0500

WORM fits nicely into individual object read-only access (i.e. I have 2 
million X-rays I need to back up for ten years), but it does very 
poorly for relational databases, since there are so many secondary 
relationships that need to be managed.  For example, a query to 
retrieve one BLOB could touch 3 different files, each one residing on a 
different media.

There's a few things that apparently haven't been determined yet - 
acceptable access times, throughput, and I/Os per second.  If you're 
not going to be able to hazard a guess at these things, then the 
easiest and safest thing to do would be to get an EMC array and go from 
there.

However, better/possibly more appropriate options are the NearStore 
from Netapp  or 3PAR.  The NearStore is all SATA drives, very easy to 
manage, very large raid groups, designed for high redundancy and 
reasonable performance at a very high storage density.  That's 
appropriate if you need basically slow, reliable storage at a cheap 
price point.  For higher performance, 3PAR is designed to take 
advantage of an internall distributed, internally scalable architecture 
and is very easy to manage online.  If you need higher performance 
storage for cheaper than EMC, check them out.  The last option, and the 
cheapest and most dangerous, is to get a bunch of Nexsan storage arrays 
and put them on a SAN with your databases.  Then use something like 
Veritas or ASM to stripe and mirror across them.  Cheapest option, 
performance should be pretty decent.

In the end, though, you're really going to need more information to be 
able to plan these things.

Thanks,
Matt

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On Mar 18, 2005, at 11:10 AM, Hand, Michael T wrote:

> When I hear huge amounts of read-only, archived data, I think WORM
> optical, though can't give you any price/performance vs SAN, NAS, JBOD.
>
> Regards,
> Mike Hand=20
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> [mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Brian Wisniewski
> Sent: Friday, March 18, 2005 10:44 AM
> To: Oracle-L@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Storage options?
>
> I just got pinged from one of our development directors about a 
> possible
> project coming up in the next fiscal year and I need your input on
> storage options.  This is going to be a massive 40TB+ project and it's
> mostly for archival of blob-type data.  ~200,000,000 rows * ~200K 
> blobs.
> Obviously we haven't even talked about indexes or access patterns but
> this is going to be a read-only type system of archived data.  I'm sure
> price is going to far exceed performance when the rubber hits the road
> at the mgmt level.
> =20
> We are currently an all EMC shop but we looked at IBM's storage and
> found it unacceptable.  Looking for solid storage vendors who could
> provide this type of storage at a 'reasonable' price.  Any thoughts?
> =20
> Thanks - Brian
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