RE : RE: Database access using LDAP Authentication
- From: Marius Raicu <mariu200@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: Rich.Jesse@xxxxxx, oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2006 16:45:39 +0200 (CEST)
Hi,
You can query an LDAP server from oracle stored procedures by example, using
DBMS_LDAP. I haven't done it from logon triggers, hovewer, I assume it should
be possible somehow...But I think this is the hardest method to authenticate
oracle users.An if you have 40+ databases, why not LDAP-authenticate the access
to the applications using these databases instead of creating a hard dependence
between ldap and oracle databases.
Regards,
"Jesse, Rich" <Rich.Jesse@xxxxxx> a écrit : Yep, as Mark mentioned, what
you want to do isn't cheap in the Oracle World. Perhaps you could start here
for a primer:
http://download-east.oracle.com/docs/cd/B10501_01/network.920/a96582/galsyste.htm#1017957
While I haven't played with this aspect of LDAP in Oracle (currently
implementing network Naming in LDAP), I would think that you wouldn't
necessarily need the Wallets, Enterprise Login, and all the SSO stuff. Just
the expensive licensing. And, funny, but I don't see the Enterprise Edition
as being needed for LDAP naming, but I could be wrong.
Also, I believe the LDAP naming is on a user-by-user basis. In other words,
you could setup the SYSTEM account on each of your 40 DBs with your standard
local passwords, but have a "HR" account in each that uses LDAP
authentication, or have some "HR" accounts LDAP and some local. No triggers
are needed -- look up the "CREATE USER" command, specifically the "IDENTIFIED
GLOBALLY" clause.
In a nutshell, you've got quite a task on your hands. Have fun learning!
Rich
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Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2006 12:48 PM
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Subject: Database access using LDAP Authentication
All:
Jr. DBA here looking for a little help on a project she's been given.
Any thoughts & ideas you have are greatly appreciated.
THE SITUATION:
After Collaborate06, I suggested to our managers that we use Profiles on
our 40+ databases for added security. After some hemming & hawing,
security group agreed, and we began to put Profile Plans into motion.
At this time the department realized that if they had a direct Database
account, they would have to change their password, which meant in some
circumstances, on all 40 databases. This caused some grumbling, but it
wasn't too bad.
At this time the head of Systems said 1 word to the head DBA that would
simultaneously make all the profile research instantly trash and my life
hell: LDAP.
Yes, he wants us to have oracle use LDAP for it's user/schema
authentication.
SYSTEMS:
Oracle 9.2.0.6
LDAP v3 (not Oracle's LDAP)
All 40+ databases & 2 LDAPs are on different Unix boxes.
EXAMPLE OF WANTED RESULTS:
To make sure I am not being difficult, here's the prime example:
1) I open SQLPLUS and type in my Oracle Userid & password (scott/tiger).
2) Oracle then somehow takes the userid & password to a centralized
LDAP.
3) LDAP replies with either: "Yep, that's right" or "No, reject
session".
4) Oracle then allows access (depending on LDAP's response), and uses
it's the users role/sys/tab privs to say what that user has access to.
RESEARCH:
I have seen where you can authenticate through an htmldb app using the
DBMS_LDAP package, but we're not going through a 3rd party app, nor do I
think a login server is quite what we're looking for here, but maybe
this is how it has to be done?
I saw the wonderful "LDAP_AUTHENTICATE procedure for Active Directory"
from this list, and tried it as a great jumping-off point, but can't
figure out quite how to use it in relation to how Oracle logs in its
users.
Metalink seems to take you into stray paths, and the SSO books around
have to do with 10g, if it's even SSO I'm quite looking for. And Google
seems to think I'm insane.
QUESTIONS:
1) Is it even possible to use LDAP to authenticate Oracle users directly
from Oracle? How would I go about doing this?
2) If this is possible, via some sort of login trigger or something,
then is it possible to exclude specific users? We obviously don't want
SYS or OP$ORACLE going through LDAP due to LDAP Failure making the
database useless.
Thank you in advance for all of your help, and thanks for all the ideas
that this list has given me!
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Regards,
Marius
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