If Table A is the driver and the table we always want a row to be returned from and we join it to table B with the "(+)" on the B side of the where clause conditions. Now Table B has 0 or more rows for every row in A. When there is no match the row in A is still returned. When there is a match the row in A is returned for each and every match in B just as in normal inner join. So if 3 three rows in B that share the join keys with A you will get 2 extra rows compared to just a count(*) from A based on the A table where conditions. HTH -- Mark D Powell -- -----Original Message----- From: oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Nuno Souto Sent: Friday, July 23, 2004 10:07 AM To: oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: Quick question re outer joins jo_holvoet@xxxxxxxx apparently said,on my timestamp of 23/07/2004 6:50 PM: > If the relationship to the new table is 1-N, it could potentially add rows > just like a regular join, couldn't it ? How? If it finds a corresponding row, it puts its column value in the output. If it doesn't, it puts a NULL there. How can that add rows? -- Cheers Nuno Souto in sunny Sydney, Australia dbvision@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ---------------------------------------------------------------- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com ---------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe send email to: oracle-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx put 'unsubscribe' in the subject line. -- Archives are at //www.freelists.org/archives/oracle-l/ FAQ is at //www.freelists.org/help/fom-serve/cache/1.html ----------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com ---------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe send email to: oracle-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx put 'unsubscribe' in the subject line. -- Archives are at //www.freelists.org/archives/oracle-l/ FAQ is at //www.freelists.org/help/fom-serve/cache/1.html -----------------------------------------------------------------