its oracle secure backup and its supposedly an all in one backup solution that does not require a seperate media management layer. oth has some product docs on it Ray Stell <stellr@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Someone at IOUG said that Oracle Corp had announced a product that could be used to replace the Legato shim between rman and tape libraries. Does anyone know what this is called this week? -- //www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l