RE: Optimizer

  • From: Freeman Robert - IL <FREEMANR@xxxxxxxx>
  • To: "'Bobak, Mark '" <Mark.Bobak@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "'oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx '" <oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 16:28:46 -0500

this is 9iR2... and system stats are not being gathered at the moment. That
is a possibility I suppose. I'll try that.

RF


-----Original Message-----
From: Bobak, Mark
To: Freeman Robert - IL; oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: 9/30/2004 4:25 PM
Subject: RE: Optimizer

What version of Oracle?
If >=9i, are system stats gathered?

-----Original Message-----
From: oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Freeman Robert - IL
Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2004 5:17 PM
To: 'oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx '
Subject: Optimizer


I can do backup and recovery in my sleep.... I can create databases, and
I
am not a bad SQL tuning fellow I must say.. But, if there were to be an
Oracle inqusition, I would have to confess that the optimizer still
befuddles me sometimes. I have two tables: EMP and DEPT. EMP has 15,000
rows
and DEPT has 1 row. No indexes. Real simple.

I have a simple SQL statement joining these tables:

select a.empid, a.ename, b.dname
from emp a, dept b
where a.deptno=b.deptno
and a.empid < 1000;

In playing with this statement, this is the execution path the optimizer
takes:

Execution Plan
----------------------------------------------------------
   0      SELECT STATEMENT Optimizer=CHOOSE (Cost=40 Card=1000
Bytes=22000)
   1    0   HASH JOIN (Cost=40 Card=1000 Bytes=22000)
   2    1     TABLE ACCESS (FULL) OF 'DEPT' (Cost=2 Card=1 Bytes=10)
   3    1     TABLE ACCESS (FULL) OF 'EMP' (Cost=37 Card=1000
Bytes=12000)

Statistics
----------------------------------------------------------
          0  recursive calls
          0  db block gets
        444  consistent gets
          0  physical reads
          0  redo size
      21517  bytes sent via SQL*Net to client
       1378  bytes received via SQL*Net from client
         68  SQL*Net roundtrips to/from client
          0  sorts (memory)
          0  sorts (disk)
        999  rows processed

If I do an ORDERED hint and reverse the join order, I get these results:

Execution Plan
----------------------------------------------------------
   0      SELECT STATEMENT Optimizer=CHOOSE (Cost=40 Card=1000
Bytes=22000)
   1    0   HASH JOIN (Cost=40 Card=1000 Bytes=22000)
   2    1     TABLE ACCESS (FULL) OF 'EMP' (Cost=37 Card=1000
Bytes=12000)
   3    1     TABLE ACCESS (FULL) OF 'DEPT' (Cost=2 Card=1 Bytes=10)


Statistics
----------------------------------------------------------
          0  recursive calls
          0  db block gets
        377  consistent gets
          0  physical reads
          0  redo size
      21517  bytes sent via SQL*Net to client
       1378  bytes received via SQL*Net from client
         68  SQL*Net roundtrips to/from client
          0  sorts (memory)
          0  sorts (disk)
        999  rows processed

Note that the plan the optimizer chooses results in more consistent
gets,
than the plan using the ordered hint does. I would expect that for
something
this basic, the optimizer would "get it right" and come up with the
better
plan, which the later plan seems to be. Any thoughts on this? Did I miss
something basic in my statistics gathering? I gathered stats for all
columns, and did 100 buckets for the histograms. 

I note that the cost for both plans is the same, so is there some tie
breaking going on and if so, what are the rules for this tie breaking?
Or...Is this just a "law of diminishing returns" thing, and the
difference
is so slight that Oracle could just go either way? I'm going to add more
rows to both tables and see if that impacts the results....

Thoughts anyone?

RF


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