RE: OCP Preperation -Any Recommended Books , Links , Docs ?

  • From: "TOMPKINS, MARGARET" <MARGARET.TOMPKINS@xxxxxxxx>
  • To: <oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2004 13:33:02 -0600

I'm starting to see some experienced based certifications.  They are case 
studies reviewed by experts.  It would be more like an essay exam than multiple 
choice.  Interviews are also a part of the process.  Does anyone have 
experience with those?  Maggie

Respectfully, 
Maggie Tompkins - CAD SQA 
Corporate Applications Division 
Technology Services Organization - Kansas City 
Defense Finance and Accounting Service 
816-926-1117 (DSN 465); Margaret.Tompkins@xxxxxxxx 

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From: oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On 
Behalf Of Chris Stephens
Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2004 12:41 PM
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Subject: RE: OCP Preperation -Any Recommended Books , Links , Docs ?



I wholeheartedly agree.  ...but I think it is also true that even among non-dba 
types, the legitimacy of the ocp is declining due to the fact that there are so 
many people out there that pass the tests because they have a 'question 
repository'.  I remember trying to aquire the classroom documentation via the 
internet because my company would not send me to the classes (nor did I want to 
go to the class).  In my search I came across several dba forums where the 
exact questions and answers were laid out for everyone to see.  ...it's crap.  
...it's also one of the (probably too few) times in my life where I took the 
moral high road and went on to the next google hit...often not before posting a 
nasty message to the forum.

 

Hell...I studied the documentation from the classes and investigated what I 
didn't understand via working through examples and referencing the official 
documentation.  I felt pretty good about getting the certification and felt I 
was a fully competent dba.  ...and then I joined this list and realized just 
how little I knew.  ...I shudder to think what has happened at companies where 
some newly knighted ocp lands a production dba gig with all the confidence that 
(sometimes) comes by passing the tests.    ...I struggle with not screwing 
things up as it is! :-)

 

I know this has been discussed before.......but this hits home.  I am currently 
looking for a job and because I don't personally feel I'm at the sr. dba level 
and as a result don't market myself as such, my resume probably gets lumped in 
with a  bunch of people who hold certifications but can't do a d@mn thing!!  
...and given the current market situation, it's not a fun place to be!

 

Woo.  That felt good.  ...back to reading oracle design.  ...thanks mogens for 
reminding me just how good this book is!

 

chris

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Jared.Still@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:Jared.Still@xxxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2004 11:40 AM
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Subject: RE: OCP Preperation -Any Recommended Books , Links , Docs ?

 


> ..if it has any value at all. 

I must disagree with this statement. 

True, it may have no value among your Oracle peers. 

But I doubt that anyone here is getting it to impress their peers.  We 
all know better.  Wrong answers, dumb questions, etc. 

The OCP may be the deciding factor when applying for employment. 

Check monster.com and dice.com.  I have seen ads on several occasions 
that *require* OCP. 

It may also be tied to an individuals employment grade and/or salary increase. 

You just need to consider another perspective on the subject. 

Jared 








 

Chris Stephens <ChrisStephens@xxxxxxxxxx> 
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And this is one of the reasons ocp gets to be less and less valuable....if
it has any value at all.

...study the database...not the questions.

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From: Kommareddy, Srinivas (MED, Wissen Infotech)
[mailto:Srinivas.Kommareddy@xxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2004 3:51 AM
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Subject: RE: OCP Preperation -Any Recommended Books , Links , Docs ?

Hi,

Do you need an easy way ? 

ping me personallly if you need the question bank. You willl get more than
60-70% of the questions in the exam from this question bank.

Thanks and Regads,
Srinivas


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Subject: OCP Preperation -Any Recommended Books , Links , Docs ?


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