Re: MTS for 5,000 All-at-Once Users?

  • From: JApplewhite@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • To: oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 21:31:02 -0500

Jared,
Actually, it is fun.  The approach we've come up with to centralize the 
Campus databases, eliminate other problems with the App, enhance security, 
etc., etc. - using standard database features, no code changes - are all 
things the Vendor has never been able to figure out.  We've applied for a 
patent and have the Vendor very interested in getting us to teach them how 
we do it!  It's a rare and enjoyable feeling to actually make a Vendor 
squirm!    ;-)

Advanced Queing, eh?  Never used it and only looked at it as a possible 
solution for our Developers to centralize error logging from their many 
Apps on our several databases - Autonomous Transactions across DB Links 
are problematic.  I'll have to see if it can help us with this COTS App, 
for which the code is unmodifiable by us.

Thanks.

Jack C. Applewhite - Database Administrator
Austin (Texas) Independent School District
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Jared Still <jkstill@xxxxxxxxxx>
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> We are in the process of sizing servers for consolidating the 162 
> far-flung dBase IV (go ahead and laugh, we have to - to keep from 
crying) 

Actually, this sounds like fun to me.

> However, once each morning, all 5,000 Elementary teachers log on and 
> upload their class attendance data.  The data from each teacher is only 
> the Student Numbers for 20 - 30 kids and the associated "Present" or 
> "Absent" flags, perhaps with an Absence Code.  It's not much, but 
> multiplied by 5,000, all within probably a 10 - 15 minute span, and we 
...

Jack, have you investigate Advanced Queuing for this?  It sounds like
it might be worth prototyping.  If the data doesn't have to be there
immediately, this could prevent killing your server even though they
they all logon at once. 

My guess would be that memory for all sessions in will be the least of
your worries if they all hit 'COMMIT' in a short time period.  :)

Jared
...


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