RE: Just my opinion - the move of MOS to Flash is still a bunch of crap (let's turn this to a productive effort)

How about MIX? You can post ideas and suggestions there, and people can vote 
for your suggestions. If we organize a slug of individual enhancement or change 
requests and some decent percentage of this list votes for them the vote totals 
would be records for MIX. One important thing is to post the idea once and have 
it voted for a lot, not many similar postings with a split vote amongst 
different wordings.

 

Unfortunately the biggest single problem with the Flash version is the 
unneeded, unwanted, and resource consumptive flashy graphics which contribute 
negatively to the experience in addition to making it slower. Sometimes much 
slower depending on your device and connection. And it is difficult to dice 
that complaint up more specifically than the general observation. I don’t know 
whether that tosses me into the “some did not. =)” group.

 

But documenting any specific features available in the flash version (other 
than those eye popping graphical eye candy designs) that are missing from the 
non-flash version individually is a great idea.  Likewise concrete example of 
specific changes. If MIX is not palatable, perhaps someone can make an 
alternative suggestion.

 

Thanks Charles! And thanks Jared. Some rants are worthwhile.

 

mwf

 

From: oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
Behalf Of Charles Schultz
Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 10:06 AM
To: Oracle-L Freelists
Cc: jkstill@xxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Just my opinion - the move of MOS to Flash is still a bunch of crap

 

I have been sitting on the sidelines and reading this, tempted to respond. I 
got to talking to someone at the manager level in Support who has also been 
looking at these. What is most helpful is to identify exactly what you want to 
change, and maybe even how to change it. Some of those on this thread did that. 
Some did not. =)

 

I myself have had a number of suggestions that I have made known to various 
folks in the Support structure. And there are days I feel exactly like you do, 
Jared. I am glad you got that off your chest, but I would encourage us all to 
be specific about what we want - it makes it much easier for developers to 
deliver specifics. Not saying they will, but at least they cannot use the 
excuse of not knowing.

 

Hmm... is anyone keeping track of changes that the user community would like to 
see? Since Oracle does not seem to believe in things like bugzilla, maybe a 
user community owned list of enhancements (both done and need to be done) would 
be appropriate.

On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 08:52, Jared Still <jkstill@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

My apologies for such an unabashed public rant.

 

I should clearly stay away from the keyboard at such times.

 

IAC, it is pretty clear that most folks are STILL avoiding

flash MOS if at all possible.


Jared Still
Certifiable Oracle DBA and Part Time Perl Evangelist
Oracle Blog: http://jkstill.blogspot.com
Home Page: http://jaredstill.com



On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 1:24 PM, Jared Still <jkstill@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

<vent>

I am really sick and tired of this POS costing me time.

Waiting to see if it will work...

Restarting firefox when flash hangs...

It is just ridiculous.

I am going to use HTML only.

If it doesn't work in HTML, then it isn't necessary.

</vent>

 

Hmmm...

 

I don't really feel all that much better.

 

Maybe I will go find an old PC to smash...


Jared Still
Certifiable Oracle DBA and Part Time Perl Evangelist
Oracle Blog: http://jkstill.blogspot.com
Home Page: http://jaredstill.com

 




-- 
Charles Schultz

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