Does anyone have any opinions on this article? Hacking Oracle's database will soon get easier: http://productivityapps.itbusinessnet.com/articles/viewarticle.jsp?id=80 4528 It got my managers attention, and now my task is to write something up...motivated and based by starting with the article. (I've been sending them to Pete Finnigans sites but they don't go and then forget). Joel Patterson Database Administrator 904 727-2546 -- //www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l