if you can connect through sql plus as sysdba you should be able to do a shutdown immediate Also oracle does do instance recovery applying all of the online redo log information before it opens the database if the database does not open gracefully Still get a good backup first making sure to archive your redo and backup your archives would ensure 0 data loss Carel's questions about archives when a backup will be as well as questions of ensuring your application, batches and backups are not hitting the db at the same time ensures a fallback plan -------------------------- Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless Handheld -----Original Message----- From: oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: revoohc@xxxxxxxxx <revoohc@xxxxxxxxx> CC: oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Mon Jun 13 19:49:54 2005 Subject: Re: Fwd: How to shutdown 9i? Hi Chris, Are backups scheduled? Will the server be booted before or after the backup? How much data-loss is allowed? Do you have all archives available on tape/another system? Just in case the reboot doesn't help and the server won't start nor allows 'shell' access after the init 0/init 6. You will probably get access to the disks after a while, but is that fast enough? Best regards, Carel-Jan Engel On Tue, 2005-06-14 at 01:21, Chris Hoover wrote: > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Chris Hoover <revoohc@xxxxxxxxx> > Date: Jun 13, 2005 4:08 PM > Subject: How to shutdown 9i? > To: Oracle-L@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > We are having a very strange problem. Our AIX server is having issues > and is not allowing shell access from the terminal or from the > network. > > The decision has been made to reboot this server tonight. However, it > is our Oracle 9i db server. Is there anyway to get Oracle to shutdown > w/o being able to log onto the box? We can connect to the db fine > with our application and sql plus, we just can't get a shell on the > box. We do not have an Enterprise manager server since we only run > this on copy of Oracle. > > thanks for any advice. > > Chris > -- > //www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l === If you think education is expensive, try ignorance. (Derek Bok) === DBA!ert, Independent Oracle consultancy Kastanjelaan 61C 2743 BX Waddinxveen The Netherlands tel. +31 (0) 182 64 04 28 fax +31 (0) 182 64 04 29 e-mail info.dbalert@xxxxxxxxx -- //www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l BEGIN-ANTISPAM-VOTING-LINKS ------------------------------------------------------ Teach CanIt if this mail (ID 35212458) is spam: Spam: https://dohsmsi01.doh.state.fl.us/canit/b.php?c=s&i=35212458&m=967dfd008f33 Not spam: https://dohsmsi01.doh.state.fl.us/canit/b.php?c=n&i=35212458&m=967dfd008f33 Forget vote: https://dohsmsi01.doh.state.fl.us/canit/b.php?c=f&i=35212458&m=967dfd008f33 ------------------------------------------------------ END-ANTISPAM-VOTING-LINKS -- //www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l