Addendum: Someone just wrote me private mail objecting to the use of the word idiot. 1. Those of you who read know that I'm using it to scorn and resentment towards certain people and the ways they might carry out policy, , and would rather use that word than something stronger, my apologies though if inappropriate. Substitute the word "jerk" "punter" or anything else you like. 2. I am only referring to my experiences and have found people who are not really on the same page as I am with blind rehab and I do think of them in less than flattering terms because of how their decisions effect peoples' lives. Nothing meant to any personally here who might be in the rehab industry, I would like to be friends with everyone, but I do believe what I am saying about our system sometimes not doing what it needs to. To the person who was annoyed with me, I am deeply flattered that you are awake enough now to give every word of my message the servile attention it does deserve, please keep it up as I enjoy adulation of that type immensely--smile. After all, it's only eight in the morning here in the US on the East Coast! When I don't like a message, I either respond with my point of view, or laugh and delete so obviously you take me quite seriously and as I say, I'm truly humbled and gladdened. End of off topic. Dan W. and the crew -----Original Message----- From: optacon-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:optacon-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Dan Weiner Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 7:28 AM To: optacon-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [optacon-l] Re: Reading languages Easy answer to that question, because some of our rehab people in the US are idiots, and because every time they turn around there are more and more budget cuts and they, even the ones who aren't idiots, don't have money, or have money for the wrong things...so, by recycling things like optacons they were going to save money. I actually had to give my optacon back in seventh grade, but when I was in my mid twenties I bought a used one, otherwise I wouldn't have one now, so the two Dans had similar experiences I suppose. And I think, the more Dans the better--lol Now time to vent, thought computer technology is essential I think for us in the modern world I still know blind people here who don't have it because rehab services say it's not justified b because they aren't being full time students or on a job and they themselves aren't sure what to get, how to get training or their families can't afford it. And I would very much appreciate people not running on to the list to say how in quotes" ignorant or lazy" these people are, the blind folks, because they aren't and I was in that state about fifteen years ago, didn't know anything about adaptive technology or what to get myself and wasn't either a full time student or on the job and my folks just didn't know what to get. Finally I figured out what I needed but it's been slow going. Anyway, I know that I have perilously strayed away from the topic, and will cease and desist. But the basic point above still remains. Dan W., Parker the guide dog, and Otto the optacon--lol -----Original Message----- From: optacon-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:optacon-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jyrki Voutilainen Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 1:01 AM To: Optacon Users Subject: [optacon-l] Re: Reading languages On Wed, 6 Feb 2013, Debby Franson wrote: > That's a shame you had to give up your Optacon when you went to > college, not having it to use in Russian class. And I wonder, though nothing can be done any more, why. Did they come with any arguments for such a praxis? When I left the basic school, or what ever the right term is for this, I was allowed to keep my Optacon that they had given me and some others too. And that's the same device that I still have and which has been repaired last summer. Dan's example and mine only show how differently these things can be done in different countries, but also inside the same country depending on the local authorities' attitude. -- Jyrki Voutilainen mailto:jykke.voutilainen@xxxxxxxxx to view the list archives, go to: www.freelists.org/archives/optacon-l To unsubscribe at any time, just send a message to: optacon-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" (without the quotes) in the message subject. Tell your friends about the list. They can subscribe by sending a message to: optacon-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "subscribe" (without the quotes) in the message subject. to view the list archives, go to: www.freelists.org/archives/optacon-l To unsubscribe at any time, just send a message to: optacon-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" (without the quotes) in the message subject. Tell your friends about the list. 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