[opendtv] Re: The "real" problem with OFDM in the U.S. Al Limberg wrote: > Low height-above-average-terrain broadcast antennas are > not very good for DTV because multipath problems get out > of hand. That seems to me to make the small stick > approach difficult to justify economically. The towers > still need to be high, even though effective radiated > power is low. Bob Miller wrote: > COFDM doesn't seem to mind. 300 to 400 ft is enough in a > city like New York. The basic point is that lowering the antenna increases path loss, no matter what modulation scheme you use. So low stick means more power and more sticks, to cover large areas. The first thing to do is to articulate your goals. If your objective is to cover large areas with least power, you will want to have tall sticks in the solution. I use the so-called Hata or ITU-R empirical model for outdoor terrestrial urban and suburban path loss: loss (dB) =3D 69.55 + 26.16log(fMHz) - 13.82log(h1) - a(h2) + (44.9 - 6.55log(h1))log(dKm) - (30 - 25log(%building)) In this empirical formula, h1 is Tx antenna height, h2 is Rx antenna height, a(h2) is a fudge factor for Rx antenna height contribution which includes an effect of frequency. Frequency is MHz, heights in meters, distance Km, logs are base 10. http://w3.antd.nist.gov/wctg/manet/calcmodels_dstlr.pdf Just looking at the equation tells you that loss is reduced with antenna height, both transmit and receive antennas, loss increases with frequency, increases with distance, and loss increases with the percent of area covered by buildings. So tall towers are best for transmission, in general, no matter what power levels you use. Interestingly, entering ridiculous anetnna heights in this model does eventually give you better than free space propagation. So it pays to build in that extra check. Bert ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.