At 9:51 PM +0200 4/30/05, Donald Koeleman wrote: > >Hmm... > >Does this only work on Apple computers? > >Is the codec also available for the pc, the site only mentions Tiger? > >If it is fully AVC compliant it should also be viewable on alternatives >like: http://www.mainconcept.com/h264_encoder.shtml. > >Any other interesting encoder/decoder alternatives out there for the pc, >preferably free ones? > Only Macs running Tiger and QuickTime 7. 720P playback is within reach of affordable Macs like the Mini and iMac. This will be the main thrust for Apple, as there are multiple roadblocks to playing 1080P on any affordable computing platform today. Here are some of the issues, and why it may take a bit longer to release QuickTime7 for the PC. 1. Decoding bandwidth - this is processor intensive and is typically split between multiple processors, including graphics co-processors on the video board. With previous incarnations of MPEG some of the routines werre handed off to the graphics co-processors, which had loops to hadle things like the DCT transform. But H-264 does not use the DCT transform. Apple uses the Alti-vec co-processors in the PowerPC chips to accelerate some of the sub routines. Alti-Vec does not exist n PCs, but there are other co-processors in the Intel and clone chips that can be used - but this requires additional code for those platforms. 2. Bus bandwidth - moving 2 mpixels to the graphics board at 60P or able takes a lot of bus bandwidth - more than most current machines can support. 3. DVI Bandwidth - moving 1080@60P or above to a high resolution display requires a very fast viceo card. Apple requires a board with dual DVI for the 30 inch Cinema display (2560 x 1600), and recommends a 128 MB graphic card for the 23 inch display (1920 x 1200), if you want to play 1080P full screen. Apple controls the graphics cards they support in the Mac - there is much more variability on the PC side, which complicates HD play out. By the way, I spoke with a friend at Microsoft who indicated that they will support H.264 play only in a future Windows Media release. My guess is that this will NOT extend up through the HD level, but rather will be focused on lower resolution/bitrate applications. And for the record, Apple demonstrated 1080@24P H.264 playout during NAB (I believe that the actual screen refresh is 60P). For both Apple and Microsoft, the sweet-spot for HD playout will be 720P. Regards Craig ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.