I stand corrected, Skip. I know of several Sundays, more than a year ago, when HBO with the Sopranos or Sex and the City beat any of the broadcast network. I could have used ANY other cable network, and my statement would have been correct. (Sunday has the second-lowest audiences of the "broadcast week." It's a perfect opportunity for them to beat the nets. The reason I chose HBO is that I hoped some fresh and knowledgeable blood would enter this fray and know that HBO was the wrong choice. I guess HBO proves once again that "content is king." Sad that HDTV over wifi proponents and Mr. Miller think that technology will trump all. John Willkie -----Original Message----- From: opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Skip Pizzi Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 4:09 PM To: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [opendtv] Re: News: DTV Coalition Pushes Satellite HDTV > All the HBOs in a week get the audience of WCBS or WABC or WNBC in slow day.=20 You might want to rethink that statement, John. There have been several cases where HBO's Sunday night prime-time line up has won the night's Nielsens. This means that not only is (one) HBO channel beating a single NYC broadcast station, it's beating *all* of that networks' affiliates during that period. Cume is a different story, but the differences are not so vast as you imply. And the business models are totally different anyway, so such comparisons are a bit specious -- or at least should be carefully weighted.=20 --SP Skip Pizzi=20 Microsoft Corp. Fairfax, VA skippiz@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx=20 -----Original Message----- From: opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John Willkie Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 5:05 PM To: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; Manfredi, Albert E=20 Subject: [opendtv] Re: News: DTV Coalition Pushes Satellite HDTV Buy a TV station, and you can do make it free to anyone you care to. As for the business model ... All the HBOs in a week get the audience of WCBS or WABC or WNBC in slow day. John -----Original Message----- From: opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Cliff Benham Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 10:15 AM To: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; Manfredi, Albert E Subject: [opendtv] Re: News: DTV Coalition Pushes Satellite HDTV Having multiple program feeds for the networks was my orignal=3D20 = reason for subscribing to DirecTV. Multiple feeds should be made available for those who want to pay for = =3D it. How many different HBOs, Showtimes, etc. are there?=3D20 Now we are restricted to just one CBS or NBC depending on one's =3D location. =3D20 -----Original Message----- From: opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Kaufhold, Gerry (In-Stat RBI-US) Sent: Monday, April 26, 2004 2:00 PM To: 'Manfredi, Albert E '; 'opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ' Subject: [opendtv] News: DTV Coalition Pushes Satellite HDTV Gerry Kaufhold here from In-Stat/MDR I've been on DirecTV since about 1997, and have often wanted to "tune in" the local news feeds from cities where I have siblings: Miami, Florida Pittsburgh, PA Dayton, Ohio Columbus, Ohio Des Moines, Iowa Orlando/Jacksonville, Florida Austin, Texas Dallas, Texas Houston, Texas my interenst level is that I would pay-per-view to get access to these local news feeds, which are already on the "bird" but the local-into-local agreements prohibit DirecTV from letting me see the news from these other cities - even if I want to pay for it. So, my opinion agrees with Albert and Craig - put it all out there and let the market decide - if a regional feed of the network programming is all the the market wants, so be it. But - if the market wants to watch=3D20 a wide variety of local news channels as pay-per-view, those cities with good quality news could find new markets and revenues. thanks! Gerry Kaufhold gkaufhold@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 520 363-9752 -----Original Message----- From: Manfredi, Albert E To: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: 4/26/2004 11:21 AM Subject: [opendtv] Re: News: DTV Coalition Pushes Satellite HDTV Craig Birkmaier wrote: > But it might be worthwhile to ask one question. > > If it were legal for DBS to carry just a handful of regional network=20 > feeds, how many people do you think would give a rats ass about their=20 > local stations? Good question. Which is why national caps don't make any sense. What's good for DBS should also be good for cable and OTA. Let the market decide how much local content, rather than politicians. I assume this was your point. > As i recall, people were pissed when they lost the East and West coast > network feeds after SHIVA. The ability to have multiple access points=20 > to network programming seems to have more cache' than the ability to=20 > view local news and commercials. Agreed! The marketplace has spoken! Bert ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.