That would be a feat in 1999, since 8-VSB was approved in 1996. But, dream on, just don't dream up. John Willkie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Miller" <bob@xxxxxxxxxx> To: <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, May 16, 2005 2:00 PM Subject: [opendtv] Re: Let them eat cake (and ATSC while they're at it) > John Golitsis wrote: > > >You're just spinning your wheels, as you have been for the past 5 years. > > > >If you have a legit business plan and legit financing, then YOU dictate to the manufacturers. You put out a tender specifying > >exactly what you want, how you want it to perform, how many you want, and what price you'll willing to pay. THEN you evaluate product that > >is supposed to meet YOUR spec. > > > > > We did that with COFDM and had working receivers in three months. > October to December 1999 and a revision in May. I would not know where > to begin with 8-VSB. The players know what they have to do I would > think. We have at the moment three companies trying meet our spec. It > has to work plug and play at Mark Schubin's and a number of other > places. It has to mimic the LG prototype or be the LG prototype we > tested last summer. > > Financing is available but I have to have a working receiver and a > timetable for production. > > >It's clear to me that you're simply afraid of a market failure. So instead of facing that inevitable conclusion, you'd rather blame > >everybody and everything else for not getting started in the first place. Blame the modulation, blame the hardware, blame the government. > > > >Blame yourself! > > > > > I blame everyone legitimately including myself. If for example we had > applied for a COFDM experimental license as we almost did for a few LPTV > stations in 1999 I think it would have been very hard for the US to have > picked 8-VSB. The demonstrations of COFDM would have not taken place in > a Congressional hearing room in 2000 but on the streets of DC. > > But we were told that the rules for digital LPTV would be finalized by > end of the year 1999 and we chose to stay quiet. Then the whole Sinclair > thing blew up and it got politicized. We were new to the broadcast game > at the time and had no idea what was going on. We wanted broadcasters to > be stuck with 8-VSB and were afraid if the COFDM secret leaked out that > the US would switch to COFDM. Something we saw as a disaster. Little did > we know that the COFDM/8-VSB debate would freeze everything > indefinitely, LPTV rules, upper and lower 700 MHz auctions and the use > of that spectrum until the transition was over. > > LPTV was supposed to be able to use COFDM but that didn't happen and the > rules didn't come out until recently. You could buy but not use lower > 700 MHz spectrum with COFDM. So the one thing left is to use 8-VSB and > that opportunity only came up with the advent of the 5th gen receiver > test. And mysteriously it cannot be duplicated. > > Before that there was simply nothing that could be done with 8-VSB or COFDM. > > Something we work on everyday. For instance last night. > > Dear Mr. Miller, > > According to your feedback, we are investigating the difference between > our Kit and LG prototype. > To help our engineers find out cause of the problem, please let me get > some more detailed information or phenomenon of the performance > difference between our Kit and LG prototype. > For example, we'd like to know ... > (1) if the output display is flickering? (If so, frequently or > infrequently?) or if the Kit could not receive the specific channel at all? > (2) Assuming the latter case (the Kit did not receive a specific > channel), did it occur during "Auto channel search" or "direct channel > tuning by pressing number buttons of remote control" or in both cases. > > Best regards, > XXXXXXX > > One of three correspondences ongoing. Why can't LG just duplicate their > prototype? Or make a receiver based on it? You wouldn't think this would > take nine months of back and forth. It sure didn't with COFDM in 1999. > In fact we were invited to Europe, wined and dined by numerous companies > and everything seemed possible. ATSC is the art of the everlastingly > impossible and the dragging of feet and the grudgingly participation. > About nobody being interested in a word. > > Bob Miller > > >On 16-May-05, at 3:24 PM, Bob Miller wrote: > > > > > > > >>We are the only entity that is actively testing 8-VSB receivers today. > >>Doesn't it strike anyone as odd that a start-up is the only company > >>looking for decent 8-VSB receivers. I have been in DC three times > >>in the > >>last few weeks and Congress has NO interest in this problem. The > >>FCC is > >>looking into receiver issues? Broadcasters other than Sinclair? > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: > > - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org > > - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.