[opendtv] Re: Let them eat cake (and ATSC while they're at it)

  • From: "John Willkie" <JohnWillkie@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 21:14:35 -0700

That would be a feat in 1999, since 8-VSB was approved in 1996.  But, dream
on, just don't dream up.

John Willkie
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bob Miller" <bob@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, May 16, 2005 2:00 PM
Subject: [opendtv] Re: Let them eat cake (and ATSC while they're at it)


> John Golitsis wrote:
>
> >You're just spinning your wheels, as you have been for the past 5 years.
> >
> >If you have a legit business plan and legit financing, then YOU dictate
to the manufacturers.  You put out a tender specifying
> >exactly what you want, how you want it to perform, how many you want, and
what price you'll willing to pay.  THEN you evaluate product that
> >is supposed to meet YOUR spec.
> >
> >
> We did that with COFDM and had working receivers in three months.
> October to December 1999 and a revision in May. I would not know where
> to begin with 8-VSB. The players know what they have to do I would
> think. We have at the moment three companies trying meet our spec. It
> has to work plug and play at Mark Schubin's and a number of other
> places. It has to mimic the LG prototype or be the LG prototype we
> tested last summer.
>
> Financing is available but I have to have a working receiver and a
> timetable for production.
>
> >It's clear to me that you're simply afraid of a market failure. So
instead of facing that inevitable conclusion, you'd rather blame
> >everybody and everything else for not getting started in the first place.
Blame the modulation, blame the hardware, blame the government.
> >
> >Blame yourself!
> >
> >
> I blame everyone legitimately including myself. If for example we had
> applied for a COFDM experimental license as we almost did for a few LPTV
> stations in 1999 I think it would have been very hard for the US to have
> picked 8-VSB. The demonstrations of COFDM would have not taken place in
> a Congressional hearing room in 2000 but on the streets of DC.
>
> But we were told that the rules for digital LPTV would be finalized by
> end of the year 1999 and we chose to stay quiet. Then the whole Sinclair
> thing blew up and it got politicized. We were new to the broadcast game
> at the time and had no idea what was going on. We wanted broadcasters to
> be stuck with 8-VSB and were afraid if the COFDM secret leaked out that
> the US would switch to COFDM. Something we saw as a disaster. Little did
> we know that the COFDM/8-VSB debate would freeze everything
> indefinitely, LPTV rules, upper and lower 700 MHz auctions and the use
> of that spectrum until the transition was over.
>
> LPTV was supposed to be able to use COFDM but that didn't happen and the
> rules didn't come out until recently. You could buy but not use lower
> 700 MHz spectrum with COFDM.  So the one thing left is to use 8-VSB and
> that opportunity only came up with the advent of the 5th gen receiver
> test. And mysteriously it cannot be duplicated.
>
> Before that there was simply nothing that could be done with 8-VSB or
COFDM.
>
> Something we work on everyday. For instance last night.
>
> Dear Mr. Miller,
>
> According to your feedback, we are investigating the difference between
> our Kit and LG prototype.
> To help our engineers find out cause of the problem, please let me get
> some more detailed information or phenomenon of the performance
> difference between our Kit and LG prototype.
> For example, we'd like to know ...
> (1) if the output display is flickering? (If so, frequently or
> infrequently?) or if the Kit could not receive the specific channel at
all?
> (2) Assuming the latter case (the Kit did not receive a specific
> channel), did it occur during "Auto channel search" or "direct channel
> tuning by pressing number buttons of remote control" or in both cases.
>
> Best regards,
> XXXXXXX
>
> One of three correspondences ongoing. Why can't LG just duplicate their
> prototype? Or make a receiver based on it? You wouldn't think this would
> take nine months of back and forth. It sure didn't with COFDM in 1999.
> In fact we were invited to Europe, wined and dined by numerous companies
> and everything seemed possible. ATSC is the art of the everlastingly
> impossible and the dragging of feet and the grudgingly participation.
> About nobody being interested in a word.
>
> Bob Miller
>
> >On 16-May-05, at 3:24 PM, Bob Miller wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >>We are the only entity that is actively testing 8-VSB receivers today.
> >>Doesn't it strike anyone as odd that a start-up is the only company
> >>looking for decent 8-VSB receivers. I have been in DC three times
> >>in the
> >>last few weeks and Congress has NO interest in this problem. The
> >>FCC is
> >>looking into receiver issues? Broadcasters other than Sinclair?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
>
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