Hi again, In my previous posting I attributed some comments to the Washington Department of Natural Resources: They also mentioned a couple of other habitat types found in western Washington and Oregon, that had not been fully recognized as potential cuckoo habitat in the draft listing document. which actually came from Washington Department of Fish & Wildlife. Both of these Washington state agencies sent in comments, but the WDNR comments that are mentioned in the USFWS listing document pertain to this issue: ... cuckoos could eventually benefit from riparian habitat enhancements that have been undertaken to protect salmonids. Also, in addition to the states that I mentioned, bits of Montana and Wyoming are considered to be within the historic range for Western Yellow-billed Cuckoo. Both of those states sent in comments (basically to argue that their populations were not significant). One more tidbit that I noticed while skimming through the state comments: New Mexico's Game & Fish department cited e-bird data as providing evidence against listing Western Yellow-billed Cuckoo as a Threatened distinct population segment (on the grounds that they could not see a difference in the timing of migrant observations in eastern vs. western New Mexico). This is the first instance I've seen where "citizen science" data have been used to argue *against* protecting birds as threatened/endangered, but we should expect it to become much more frequent. Scary stuff. Good birding, Joel -- Joel Geier Camp Adair area north of Corvallis OBOL archives: www.freelists.org/archive/obol Manage your account or unsubscribe: //www.freelists.org/list/obol Contact moderators: obol-moderators@xxxxxxxxxxxxx