I've been checking the deep water ponds around Salem, they are mostly in SE Salem, the past few days while stormy weather has seen others in the mid-Willamette Valley finding Brown Pelicans, Clark's Grebes, Sabines and Heermanns Gulls, Pacific Loons, Scoters and I don't know what all, but here in Salem there has been nothing besides WESTERN GREBES and HORNED GREBES in addition to the usual CORMORANTS, DUCKS, GEESE, etc. This morning, around 10, I saw a RED-THROATED LOON while peeking through the gate behind Kelly's looking at the large pond that you can see from I-5 near the exit to Detroit and Salem for Highway 22. It was in the neighborhood of the 3 WESTERN GREBES that have been there for a few days. Not much else on this large gravel pond. Some COOTS, RUDDIES, CORMORANTS, PB GREBES. I drove to the entrance off Lancaster and walked in to get a better look and it was in close there and I got good looks. East of there, the Aumsville Sewage Ponds had little beside a lot of SHOVELERS, a few WOOD DUCKS, and 200 DUNLIN. There has been a (lead poisoned?) SHOVELER that holds its bill straight up at an impossible angle while on the water, and whenever it tries to fly it goes straight up about 5 feet then abruptly dives straight back into the water. Over and over again. Summer's gone, my oh my. Roy Gerig, Salem OR