Bruce, This is a very interesting bird. Beyond the plumage, which I agree has some elements that suggest daggetti, the thing that caught my eye was the bill color. I've looked a lot of sapsuckers, but I've never one with such a pale bill. To my eye, the washed out red on the breast, which is also more restricted than what is typical on ruber, plus the amount of white barring on the back seem to better fit daggetti. The head pattern is ambiguous. Based on conversations that I've had with Shawn Billerman, variations in head pattern are considerable in this species complex and may not be all that reliable when sorting out subspecies and hybrids/intergrades. Shawn is working on his PhD at Univ. of Wyoming (he may be done now). He's studying Red-breasted and Red-naped Sapsuckers interactions along their zone of contact in western mountains. Much of his field work has been done in Oregon within the range of both ruber and daggetti. I have cc'd him on this post. He may be able to offer a more authoritative opinion on this bird. I've also cc'd Steve Shunk. I don't know how closely he follows OBOL these days. He too should be able to offer some meaningful commentary. Who knew that Oregon has a woodpecker with an ivory bill? Dave Irons Portland, OR Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2014 19:57:32 -0800 From: newhouse@xxxxxxx To: obol@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [obol] Red-breasted Sapsucker observations / Eugene http://brucen.zenfolio.com/p431288718 The above link leads to photos (1-7) and videos (8-10) of a RED-BREASTED SAPSUCKER, working on a neighbor's tree just outside my home office window, about 10 blocks south of the UO in Eugene. Seven photos and two videos show it at work over the last few days, and the third and final video (10) shows it revisiting the holes for sap and/or insects. The first video (8), starting at about 15 seconds in, shows the RBSA rapidly making an oval outline (against a light lichen background) and then proceeding to carve out the bark layer down to the cambium following the outline. Very fun to watch! It seems to have color characters of both the northern subspecies ruber and the southern subspecies daggettii. Sibley Guide to Birds mentions that the subspecies are sharply delineated in S. Oregon. (I'm using the National Geo Guide as well.) In Eugene, therefore, I'd expect ruber, but for this bird, daggettii seems to fit better, but not perfectly. Maybe there is no "sharp delineation?" ruber-like: shorter moustachial stripe daggetti-like: paler belly (not yellow), red breast does not end distinctly not-daggettii-like: the short moustachial stripe; and Sibley mentions no black on back of crown, yet this one has a bit inconclusive (to me): width of back stripes, but leaning toward daggettii? Comments welcome! Bruce Newhouse in Eugene OBOL archives: www.freelists.org/archive/obol Manage your account or unsubscribe: //www.freelists.org/list/obol Contact moderators: obol-moderators@xxxxxxxxxxxxx