Max, No, your initial thoughts were probably not correct. Black-capped Chickadee is an exceptionally rare bird in Deschutes County. I have lived here 33 years and only seen them three times in the county. When they do show up here they are invariably in riparian habitat, usually along the Deschutes at lower elevations like Lower Bridge out of Terrebonne. If you are in Ponderosa Pine habitat, you are in Mountain Chickadee territory. There are zero documented records of Black-capped Chickadee for the Sisters area. [And there are as many valid records of Black-capped for Sunriver as there are for Inca Dove]. When I see a list from this habitat that reports Black-capped Chickadees and no Mountain Chickadees, I know I am dealing with a hasty ID. People assume that if they don’t see an obvious white eye line the bird must be a Black-capped. That simply is not the case. During certain stages of molt the eye line can wear away or even disappear during the summer months. Even with no eye line a Mountain Chickadee is obvious with its gray, not buffy, flanks. Also during summer there are a lot of juvenile birds around who give some strange sounding calls. Visitors to Central Oregon should assume that any Chickadee they see here will be a Mountain Chickadee and document anything that isn’t. Treat every Chickadee that you believe not to be a Mountain as if it were a Boreal Chickadee. You certainly aren’t going to cavalierly report one of those on OBOL without documentation. Tom Crabtree, Bend From: obol-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:obol-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Max Smith Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2014 10:42 AM To: Mike Patterson Cc: OBOL Subject: [obol] Re: Our trip to the Central Oregon Cascades While birding the Sisters area on July 5th, I glimpsed what appeared to be a Black-capped Chickadee at Barclay Drive Meadows. A few seconds later, Sarah and I heard calls that sounded more lBlack-capped than Mountain. I second-guessed, however, when I saw that Black-caps are listed as rarities for Deschutes County on eBird. Now I wonder if we were right the first time. Max Smith Portland On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 12:35 PM, Mike Patterson <celata@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Teresa, Michelle and I have just returned from an week of visiting the Central Oregon Cascades including Crater Lake, Newberry Crater and other high elevation tourist destinations. Notable bird species on the trip include WILLIAMSON'S SAPSUCKER at Klamath Marsh and Cold Springs, PINYON JAYS in Bend. And yes, it was me who reported the BLACK-CAPPED CHICKADEES in Deschutes County (Cold Springs and Sisters). I down-graded them on eBird to chickadee sp. since I have no pictures and failed to adequately document them. I can say with confidence that they were not Mountain Chickadees... I debrief on the trip at: http://www.surfbirds.com/community-blogs/northcoastdiaries/ Additional photos at: https://www.flickr.com/photos/mbalame/collections/72157645594533826/ -- Mike Patterson Astoria, OR String Theory http://www.surfbirds.com/community-blogs/northcoastdiaries/?p=2182 OBOL archives: www.freelists.org/archive/obol Manage your account or unsubscribe: //www.freelists.org/list/obol Contact moderators: obol-moderators@xxxxxxxxxxxxx