For all the reasons already mentioned, this is definitely a Hammond's. Dave IronsPortland, OR Subject: [obol] Re: ID help with Empid @ Malheur HQ From: jeffgilligan10@xxxxxxxxx Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2014 18:26:07 -0700 CC: obol@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To: garlickn@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx The short bill, round large-headed appearance, short tail, and fairly long primary extension indicate it is a Hammond's Flycatcher, which is often the first of the empids to occur in Oregon. On Apr 23, 2014, at 5:18 PM, "Garlick, Niels" <garlickn@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:Image here: http://i.imgur.com/5zEl4mQ.jpg The bird was deep in some vegetation, so the picture had to be considerably lightened. This was the best shot I got, and it did not vocalize while I was watching. I know Empids can be rough, but I was wondering if anyone would be able to give me some pointers on this one (or can tell me if it's a hopeless cause to begin with). I was leaning towards Hammond's, based on the primary projection, the gray throat, and the bill color/size. eBird seems to want me to call it a Pacific-slope, but the bill just seems all wrong to my (admittedly Empid inexperienced) eyes. Thanks for any advice you can give! - Niels G.