I like the Dead Whale List idea. I saw two White Wagtails on a dead whale in NW Alaska once (actually I think they bred in it, which would be a REALLY neat list), but a condor would be great. There is a superb book available: California Condors in the Pacific Northwest Jesse D'Elia and Susan M. Haig. Foreword by Noel Snyder 6 × 9 inches. Black and white photographs and illustrations. 184 pages. 2013. ISBN 978-0-87071-700-0. Paperback, $19.95. OSU Press The really good news is that this book does not mention Swainson's Thrush at all. I know, I was the proofreader. Pretty sure there is no mention of Semipalmated Plover either. It DOES mention dead whales. -- Alan Contreras acontrer56@xxxxxxxxx Eugene, Oregon On 4/25/14 10:57 AM, "Mike Patterson" <celata@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >I would amend this to say, you cannot include California Condor on >your official, competitive ABA list (and by extention, your official, >competitive Oregon list, county list etc). > >I will proudly put this on every other list I keep, because, let's face >it, it's a condor and we should be free to brag about having seen one. >I am especially looking forward to putting one on my "things I've seen >sitting on a dead whale list" which like most of my lists is not bound >by the strictures of our ABA overlords. > > > If you happened to see the last Condor in Oregon in Drain in July > > 1903, you can count them. Otherwise they are not countable. The ones > > released in California and Utah are still not countable despite > > having been first released over a decade ago. The general ABA rule > > is that a population has to be self-sustaining and increasing in > > order for an introduced species to be countable. At this point they > > are not self-sustaining, let alone increasing. It will be decades > > before they would be countable here again. > >-- >Mike Patterson >Astoria, OR >Some assembly required >http://www.surfbirds.com/community-blogs/northcoastdiaries/?p=1888 > > > >OBOL archives: www.freelists.org/archive/obol >Manage your account or unsubscribe: //www.freelists.org/list/obol >Contact moderators: obol-moderators@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > OBOL archives: www.freelists.org/archive/obol Manage your account or unsubscribe: //www.freelists.org/list/obol Contact moderators: obol-moderators@xxxxxxxxxxxxx