Hi, Neal reports that they were not Gray Jays. These birds had clear black bibs that Gray Jays don't have. Range Bayer, Newport, Oregon On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 8:26 PM, Jeff Gilligan <jeffgilligan10@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > I am not usually the first to caste doubt, but the description and other > factors make lead me to consider the possibility of these birds be being > Black-backed White Wagtails as being highly dubious. I have seen many White > Wagtails on four continents (including many of the Black-backed race in Asia > and some in North America). They would appear much smaller than a > Steller's Jay. I have never seen one land in a tree. Two at a bird bath, > and then the four flew away together….I suspect that they were Gray Jays. > An old friend and bird expert once categorically declared that a bird > reported near Portland on OBOL was certainly mis-identified, and later had > to eat crow by his own statement. I will take the same leap and serve up > corvid on Thanksgiving if these are confirmed to be wagtails. > > Hoping for turkey in two days, though I still covet White Wagtail in Oregon. > > Jeff Gilligan > > Green Valley, AZ at the present. > > > > > > On Nov 26, 2013, at 5:33 PM, Range Bayer <range.bayer@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Neal Coenen just called. At about 1 PM today (Nov. 26), he saw 4 very >> birds that were unlike any he had seen before. They were not chunky, >> and he tentatively identified them as Black-backed Wagtails from his >> National Geographic book. A Steller's Jay was nearby and interacting >> with them, and they seemed to be slightly smaller than the jay but he >> did not study this. 2 birds were perched in an elderberry tree that >> had lost all of its leaves, and 2 were at a bird bath. All 4 looked >> identical and were together. Each had a black bill, white above bill >> that partially went around the sides of head, a black streak through >> the eye that went to black on back of head, black on crown that merged >> with black on back of head, some white under the bill and eye and then >> a black bib that extended to the middle of the breast, rest of breast >> white, back was black, black feathers at the end of the wingtips, and >> black on tail (did not notice if had white outer tail feathers). He >> did not get a photograph. They all flew off together shortly after he >> saw them. As of 4:15 PM, they have not returned. >> >> He saw them near his home in South Beach. Unfortunately, the area is >> private with a private road, and neighbors would not appreciate >> nonresidents visiting. If they return he will report them to me. >> >> Hopefully they will show up again in a place that is more accessible. >> >> -- >> Range Bayer, Newport, Oregon >> >> >> OBOL archives: www.freelists.org/archive/obol >> Manage your account or unsubscribe: //www.freelists.org/list/obol >> Contact moderators: obol-moderators@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> OBOL archives: www.freelists.org/archive/obol Manage your account or unsubscribe: //www.freelists.org/list/obol Contact moderators: obol-moderators@xxxxxxxxxxxxx