[ntnm] Re: feedback Re: Epub question and txt comment
- From: "Long, Alison" <Alison.Long@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <ntnm@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 16 May 2014 11:05:04 +0100
Hello Derek
I can confirm that Clive is aware. I can also confirm that our
developers will be in touch with Isaac, if they haven't been already.
Speakon is on our development roadmap.
Regards
Alison
-----Original Message-----
From: ntnm-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ntnm-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Derek Hornby
Sent: 16 May 2014 10:14
To: ntnm@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ntnm] Re: feedback Re: Epub question and txt comment
Hi Isaac
I don't think you should remove it until RNIB actually sahys we won't
Support the a-technic reader.
They should not be making things more difficult for anyone.
Alison, plea\se be sure Clive is aware of issue.
Regards, Derek
-----Original Message-----
From: ntnm-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ntnm-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf
Of Isaac Porat
Sent: Friday, May 16, 2014 8:40 AM
To: ntnm@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ntnm] Re: feedback Re: Epub question and txt comment
Hi
The a-technic reader works with the old TNAUK zipped '.doc' format which
RNIB does not support anymore.
The a-technic reader is still currently on the SpeakOn website and I
shall remove it as it is not relevant to the new service anymore.
Regards
Isaac
On 15/05/2014 12:56, Derek Hornby wrote:
> Hi all
> When I tried to read the test email I received this message:
>
> ---------------------------
> a-technic newsreader
> ---------------------------
> The supplied ZIP file contains multiple documents. The newsreader only
> supports
> one document per ZIP file. If you want to read these documents, then
unzip
> them using WinZip and read them individually.
> ---------------------------
>
> Regards, Derek
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ntnm-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ntnm-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf
> Of Dan Roche
> Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2014 12:12 PM
> To: ntnm@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [ntnm] Re: feedback Re: Epub question and txt comment
>
> Hi Huw,
>
> On monday I just recieved the Html copy of Sunday times and Joan from
Ntnm
> said there had been a problem so that's why they resent the paper
again
> yesterday with Text & Html files. I like having the Sunday times in
> separate section's and it usually tells you which item is which
section
eb,
> Driving, Sport etc. I would like them to include a explor features
which
> as you can do in Ms Word. Forgot to mention in this e-mail that I
sent to
> Ntnm yesterday.
>
> Dan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ntnm-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ntnm-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf
> Of Huw Evans
> Sent: 15 May 2014 10:07
> To: ntnm@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [ntnm] Re: feedback Re: Epub question and txt comment
>
> My initial reaction to the sample email received on 12 May (Sunday
Times
> contents links in 13 separate files) is surprise that the files are
not
> labelled and that it should be necessary to open them separately to
> ascertain their subject matter. I also wish to be able to search for
> relevant items without having to read the whole contents and, to this
end,
> would wish (based on my very limited experience of IT), to have the
whole
> contents as a single item which could be copied into a Word document.
(I
> append a copy of my message to ICT which has not been responded to).
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Huw Evans.
>
>
>
> Appendix:
>
> (copy message to ict)
>
>
>
> Many thanks for the trial email which I have opened. The files
contain
> contents links but I am unable to download the articles referred to.
Does
> this mean that they are no longer available? If so, when did they
cease
to
> be available? I shall also be most grateful for any advice on the
> following points -
>
>
>
> The newspaper is presented in 13 separate files and I find it a very
tedious
>
> operation to open (and reopen) each one separately to find out what
it
> contains. Would it be possible to provide more information within the
list
> of 13 foles and/or, present the whole paper as one single file with a
single
>
> comprehensive contents section?
>
>
>
> I find that I cannot copy the html version into a word document. I
would
> prefer to be able to do thisas I then find it possible to insert
bookmarks
> and navigate using 'find','go' and so on. It may well be possible for
me
to
>
> deal with a text version in this way and I am wondering wherher you
intend
> trialling one.
>
>
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Huw Evans.
>
>
>
> Second feedback on 14 may:
>
>
>
> I refer to the second trial pack received on 14 May and offer the
following
> comments by way of feedback:
>
> I prefer the text version to Html because it can be copied into a
document
> which I can then search and bookmark. However, the absence of a
contents
> section is a critically serious flaw making it practically impossible
to
> read a newspaper intelligently and efficiently. (Relevant comments
have
> been made in the ntnm users forum (q.v.): more can and will be said if
> necessary!)
>
> I would advocate having one informative searchable contents section
covering
>
> the whole newspaper as top priority and also believe it is desirable
to
have
>
> the newspaper itself presented as one item, rather than in 13 separate
> pieces which are not even labelled.
>
> Hoping this helps,
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Huw Evans.
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dan Roche" <dan.roche@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <ntnm@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2014 10:19 AM
> Subject: [ntnm] Re: Epub question and txt comment
>
>
>> Hi Roz, And everyone on list,
>>
>> I use the html files and fine them to save if needed and find web
site
>> easy
>> to use.
>>
>> I know the contents page with links on is easy to use as I can tab
around
>> as
>> well as arrow up and down and just click on article heading that I
want
to
>> read and it goes to the article but if I tab to next article, it
doesn't
>> tell you the heading until you arrow down a line so title headings on
>> articles would be good.
>>
>> Does anyone know what format the e-mail's will be sent out inn?
>> Dan
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: ntnm-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ntnm-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>> Behalf
>> Of Roz Olver
>> Sent: 08 May 2014 09:35
>> To: ntnm@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [ntnm] Re: Epub question and txt comment
>>
>> Hi Ari
>>
>> The ePub format is for use on iPhone and iPad and when opened in an
app
>> called iBooks, produces a contents page of links (similar to the HTML
>> version) to access the various articles.
>>
>> Hope that helps.
>>
>> Roz
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On 8 May 2014, at 09:19, Ari Damoulakis <aridamoulakis@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi guys
>>> I'm just curious, what's the use of Epub? What I mean is, my daisy
>>> player does epub, so I tried a newspaper in that format. I don't
know
>>> if my player just doesn't, but you can't navigate in any way, I
mean,
>>> there are no levels, article brakes, nothing.
>>> Another interesting thing is the .txt file. In the past, when the
>>> files were in .doc, I renamed them .txt, put them on my player and
>>> could actually navigate by article, because everytime there was a
>>> page-brake the new article started. I'm aware this couldn't be done
on
>>> other players, even though they had page navigation it didn't go by
>>> article, but with the booksense its page navigation did.
>>> Now unfortunately if one wanted to use txt format it doesn't do that
>>> anymore, so thank goodness for the html option.
>>> Ari
>>>
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