Thank you, Roz.I accept what you say but I feel that I'm going on a bit of a mystery tour if I try reading through a newspaper by going through consecutive items and prefer being able to jump around with the help of a contents.
I therefore felt this sample involved taking a step backwards. Huw.----- Original Message ----- From: "Roz Olver" <roz.olver@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <ntnm@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2014 11:48 AM Subject: [ntnm] Re: feedback Re: Epub question and txt comment
Hi HuwI received the trial email yesterday and was able to read the file names ofthe TEXT format offering as follows:- 1. The Sunday Times - Appointments 2. The Sunday Times - Business 3. The Sunday Times - Culture 4. The Sunday Times - Driving 5. The Sunday Times - Home 6. The Sunday Times - Magazine 7. The Sunday Times - Money 8. The Sunday Times - News Reviews 9. The Sunday Times - Sport 10. The Sunday Times - Style 11. The Sunday Times - TEXT 12. The Sunday Times - The Classic Pack 13. The Sunday Times - Travel File 11, The Sunday Times - TEXT, actually says "The Sunday Times - All" when I open it and I wonder if this is the file you are looking for?I note the absence of a contents page, but each of the articles is precededby a series of "+" signs; +++ denoting the principal headings and ++ sub headings. I wonder whether this might help you to search through the file as you would like. Hope this is of some assistance. Roz -----Original Message----- From: ntnm-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ntnm-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Huw Evans Sent: 15 May 2014 10:07 To: ntnm@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ntnm] Re: feedback Re: Epub question and txt comment My initial reaction to the sample email received on 12 May (Sunday Times contents links in 13 separate files) is surprise that the files are not labelled and that it should be necessary to open them separately to ascertain their subject matter. I also wish to be able to search forrelevant items without having to read the whole contents and, to this end,would wish (based on my very limited experience of IT), to have the whole contents as a single item which could be copied into a Word document. (I append a copy of my message to ICT which has not been responded to). Best wishes, Huw Evans. Appendix: (copy message to ict) Many thanks for the trial email which I have opened. The files containcontents links but I am unable to download the articles referred to. Does this mean that they are no longer available? If so, when did they cease tobe available? I shall also be most grateful for any advice on the following points -The newspaper is presented in 13 separate files and I find it a very tediousoperation to open (and reopen) each one separately to find out what itcontains. Would it be possible to provide more information within the list of 13 foles and/or, present the whole paper as one single file with a singlecomprehensive contents section? I find that I cannot copy the html version into a word document. I would prefer to be able to do thisas I then find it possible to insert bookmarksand navigate using 'find','go' and so on. It may well be possible for me todeal with a text version in this way and I am wondering wherher you intend trialling one. Best wishes, Huw Evans. Second feedback on 14 may:I refer to the second trial pack received on 14 May and offer the followingcomments by way of feedback: I prefer the text version to Html because it can be copied into a document which I can then search and bookmark. However, the absence of a contents section is a critically serious flaw making it practically impossible to read a newspaper intelligently and efficiently. (Relevant comments have been made in the ntnm users forum (q.v.): more can and will be said if necessary!)I would advocate having one informative searchable contents section covering the whole newspaper as top priority and also believe it is desirable to havethe newspaper itself presented as one item, rather than in 13 separate pieces which are not even labelled. Hoping this helps, Best wishes, Huw Evans. -- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Roche" <dan.roche@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <ntnm@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2014 10:19 AM Subject: [ntnm] Re: Epub question and txt commentHi Roz, And everyone on list, I use the html files and fine them to save if needed and find web site easy to use. I know the contents page with links on is easy to use as I can tab around aswell as arrow up and down and just click on article heading that I want toread and it goes to the article but if I tab to next article, it doesn't tell you the heading until you arrow down a line so title headings on articles would be good. Does anyone know what format the e-mail's will be sent out inn? Dan -----Original Message----- From: ntnm-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ntnm-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Roz Olver Sent: 08 May 2014 09:35 To: ntnm@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ntnm] Re: Epub question and txt comment Hi Ari The ePub format is for use on iPhone and iPad and when opened in an app called iBooks, produces a contents page of links (similar to the HTML version) to access the various articles. Hope that helps. Roz Sent from my iPhoneOn 8 May 2014, at 09:19, Ari Damoulakis <aridamoulakis@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: Hi guys I'm just curious, what's the use of Epub? What I mean is, my daisy player does epub, so I tried a newspaper in that format. I don't know if my player just doesn't, but you can't navigate in any way, I mean, there are no levels, article brakes, nothing. Another interesting thing is the .txt file. In the past, when the files were in .doc, I renamed them .txt, put them on my player and could actually navigate by article, because everytime there was a page-brake the new article started. I'm aware this couldn't be done on other players, even though they had page navigation it didn't go by article, but with the booksense its page navigation did. Now unfortunately if one wanted to use txt format it doesn't do that anymore, so thank goodness for the html option. Ari--- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com