Vanguard does look pretty cool. "not even in beta" - SWG took $30 million to produce, WOW will probably top $60 million. So these better get some deep pockets going if they are serious. I see thay are affilitaed with Microsoft, so if Billy really wants to bank roll them they should be OK. In any case, this game is 5 years out at least. They say it will be Generation 3 MMPORG, but Generation 2 (WoW and EQ2) hasnt been released yet. I read the latest game magazine reviews of WoW. Looks nice. Still gonna be a long time before release though, if they stick to their "we wont release it until its done" promise. Their PVP sux as it is right now, though they will probably fix it. Their are too many cases you can be attacked, as well as quest critical NPC's. I'm never gonna play a game thats fekked up with PC's attacking me and/or my quest NPC's. ----- Original Message ----- From: "PAUL HUSE" <HUSE@xxxxxxxxx> To: <networkku@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2004 8:39 AM Subject: [networkku] Death of EQ/ EQ2 / WoW > I'm flat-out impressed with this game and it's not even in beta. These guys > know what they're doing and obviously it has ties to lore structures similar > to that of EQ since most of the creators of the original Verant game now > work at Sigil. > > > http://www.vanguardsoh.com/http://www.vanguardsoh.com/ > <http://www.vanguardsoh.com/http:/www.vanguardsoh.com/> is going to be the > bomb. > > > > -- > > MMR > > > >