[net-gold] Re: Concept Inventories in Mathematics
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- Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 14:57:44 -0400 (EDT)
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Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 10:54:11 -0700
From: Richard Hake <rrhake@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Subject: [Net-Gold] Re: Concept Inventories in Mathematics
In response to my post "Concept Inventories in Mathematics" [Hake
(2010], Math-Teach's Robert Hansen (2010) made two absurd statements
to which I shall respond in order:
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1. "The FCI and similar strategies are geared toward students that
have had little to no preparation in the subject and that are not
expected to continue the subject past a shallow 'appreciative'
introduction of the subject."
NONSENSE! The FCI [Hestenes et al. (1992), Halloun et al. (1995)] and
its precursor the Mechanics Diagnostic [Halloun & Hestenes (1985a,b)]
test understanding of the basic concepts of Newtonian mechanics.
They are NOT "geared toward students that have had little to no
preparation in the subject and that are not expected to continue the
subject past a shallow 'appreciative' introduction of the subject."
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2. "The Compass tests in mathematics are very much unlike 'concept
inventories' (like the FCI) because (as noted above) they expect the
student to have developed actual acumen with the material, beyond
some artificial common sense."
Since when are tests such as the FCI and Mechanics Diagnostic which
test basic concepts of Newtonian mechanics only gauges of "artificial
common sense."
Richard Hake, Emeritus Professor of Physics, Indiana University
Honorary Member, Curmudgeon Lodge of Deventer, The Netherlands
President, PEdants for Definitive Academic References which Recognize the
Invention of the Internet (PEDARRII)
<rrhake@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
<http://www.physics.indiana.edu/~hake>
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REFERENCES [All URL's accessed on 22 August 2010; some shortened by
<http://bit.ly/>.]
Hake, R.R. 2010. "Concept Inventories in Mathematics," online on the
OPEN! Math-Teach archives at
<http://mathforum.org/kb/thread.jspa?threadID=2144651&tstart=0>. Post
of post of 21 September 2010 4:39:00-0700 to Math-Learn, Math-Teach,
NaturalMath, and PhysLrnR. Transmitted to AERA-L, MathEDCC, and
Net-Gold on 22 September 2010.
Halloun, I. & D. Hestenes. 1985a. "The initial knowledge state of
college physics students." Am. J. Phys. 53: 1043-1055; online at
<http://bit.ly/b1488v> - see under "Evaluation Instruments." The
print version contains the Mechanics Diagnostic Test.
Halloun, I. & D. Hestenes. 1985b. "Common sense concepts about
motion," Am. J. Phys. 53: 1056-1065; online at <http://bit.ly/b1488v>
- see under "Evaluation Instruments."
Halloun, I., R.R. Hake, E.P. Mosca, & D. Hestenes, "Force Concept
Inventory (1995 Revision)," online (password protected) at
<http://bit.ly/b1488v>, scroll down to "Evaluation Instruments."
Currently available in 20 languages: Arabic, Chinese, Croatian,
Czech, English, Finnish, French, French (Canadian), German, Greek,
Italian, Japanese, Malaysian, Persian, Portuguese, Russian, Spanish,
Slovak, Swedish, & Turkish.
Hansen, R. 2010. "Re: Concept Inventories in Mathematics," Math-Teach
post of post of 22 September 2010 12:22 AM (the Math Forum fails to
indicate the time zone); online on the OPEN! Math-Teach archives at
<http://mathforum.org/kb/message.jspa?messageID=7213830&tstart=0>.
Hestenes, D., M. Wells, & G. Swackhamer, "Force Concept Inventory,"
Phys. Teach. 30(3), 141-158 (1992); online (but without the test
itself) at <http://bit.ly/b1488v>.
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