Thanks Ken for the quick response! I wasn't even looking the right family. Another new one for me. Cheers, Kyle ________________________________ From: kjchilds <kjchilds@xxxxxxxxx> To: "ncsc-moths@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <ncsc-moths@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2013 9:47 PM Subject: [ncsc-moths] Re: More ID help: Gretchena, Noctuids 5622 Galleria mellonella, Greater Wax Moth for the one you have no idea on. Ken Childs Henderson, TN Chester County http://tinyurl.com/FinishFlagFarmsMoths http://www.finishflagfarms.com ________________________________ From: Kyle Kittelberger <kkturtledude@xxxxxxxxx> To: Moth List <ncsc-moths@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2013 8:37 PM Subject: [ncsc-moths] More ID help: Gretchena, Noctuids Hey everyone, I have another tort that I would like to have some other opinions about. I believe it is another Gretchena, and I am leaning towards G. concubitana 3260. This would be another new one for Falls Lake and, again, there don't appear to be many records for NC. http://www.flickr.com/photos/hawk-eagle/9095496151/in/photostream http://www.flickr.com/photos/hawk-eagle/9095599009/in/photostream/ This one I have no idea; any thoughts on where to start would be greatly appreciated. http://www.flickr.com/photos/hawk-eagle/9095695935/in/photostream And finally, I believe this is Chytonix sensilis, 9557. However, C. palliatricula (Cloaked Marvel) 9556 is pretty close, though I am still leaning more towards 9557. http://www.flickr.com/photos/hawk-eagle/9095719927/ Thanks for any help. This is all that I have as of now. Kyle