[ncsc-moths] Re: 21 species for Dec- need help with unidentified
- From: kjchilds <kjchilds@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: "ncsc-moths@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <ncsc-moths@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2012 08:22:09 -0800 (PST)
Doug,
There's a dark form of Vetch Looper that shows here early and late in the
season that doesn't seem to be very well documented. When I first started
mothing, it fooled me too. It's usually the most common form I see until mid
March when lighter ones start showing up. Then in late September I'll start
seeing them again.
The main reason I don't think your moth is 1422 Homaledra sabalella is the
placement of the spots in relation to the centerline. On Homaledra sabalella,
the top spot is closer to the center than the lower spot. It's reversed on your
moth. I can't say for sure what it is but 2281 Dichomeris ligulella, Palmerworm
Moth looks like a possibility and is a common moth. Maybe someone else will be
better able to help with this one.
Not being able to ID the members of Gelechioidea you see is a common enough
problem. Most of us that have been doing this for awhile have folders full of
unidentified Gelechioids. Many species aren't pictured on MPG and new species
are being described all the time. I still have more to add but here's my album
of unidentifieds.
https://picasaweb.google.com/107941137732251962394/UnidentifiedGelechioidea?authuser=0&feat=directlink
Ken Childs
Henderson, TN
Chester County
http://tinyurl.com/FinishFlagFarmsMoths
http://www.finishflagfarms.com
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From: Doug Allen <dougk4ly@xxxxxxxxx>
To: ncsc-moths@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 9:21 AM
Subject: [ncsc-moths] Re: 21 species for Dec- need help with unidentified
Thanks Ken,
The Vetch Looper was a real learning experience. I glanced at it several
times in MPG and BG trying to find some close relative with that gray color,
but none of the pictures were even close. Of course, now when I look at the
specific field marks, they're all there.
Have you looked at the one labeled 1422. There is only one Palmetto tree
within a mile of here! I couldn't find anything else that resembled my picture.
The Wedgling mistake was a dumb one. It's a mirror image of the picture
correctly identified above it. Wedgling has been the most common moth seen
this month. I was trying too hard for that 21st species of the month to pass
Richmond County's 20 species for the month of December. The games people play!
I do have a couple of unsatisfactory pictures of a 21st and 22nd species that
I'll investigate.
Doug Allen Windmill Hill, 8 miles south of the NC border and 12 miles from the
SC mountains
On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 9:51 PM, kjchilds <kjchilds@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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