I do not have iLife of any form and have heard that there is no real improvement in '09 over '08 so should I get '08 which I imagine would be cheaper (being now obsolete?) ? Are there any real advantages over Appleworks which I have and I understand has been replaced by iLife? Paul --- MUGLO information at <http://www.freewebs.com/muglo> Manage your account options at <//www.freelists.org/cgi-bin/lsg2.cgi>