Even though this comes from a tainted source, it's still an interesting discussion about the use of "pass phrases" vs. passwords: "Do you see a pattern here?=A0 Pass-phrase LENGTH, not complexity defeats these attacks.=A0 Short, but complex passwords should be shunned as they are not truly secure anymore and you are deceiving yourself if you think they are.=A0 Long pass-phrases (14 characters or more) are the future (along with 2-factor or more authN, but that's another blog for another day) and are the only way to go if you want to ensure that you won't get hacked via any type of password based attack of any kind." <http://weblogs.asp.net/robert_hensing/archive/2004/07/28/199610.aspx> PS FM(y)I What is the password length for *nix systems using the different (& most common) types of authentication? _________________________________________________ For information concerning the MUGLO List just click on http://muglo.on.ca/Pages/joinus.html Our Archives can be viewed at //www.freelists.org/archives/muglo Don't forget to periodically check our web site at: http://muglo.on.ca/