[muglo] Manually Uninstalling Software: (--Long--) Was [Re: printer]
- From: Larry Kryski <spellboundpub@xxxxxxxxxx>
- To: MUGLO <muglo@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 09:30:03 -0500
If you really have to manually uninstall files, you may have some chance if
your installer created an "installer log file".
I've copied my recent Office update installer log and pasted it below [after
the asterisks] if you want to examine its structure. This one might seem
long, but in fact compared to the Quark Xpress install log, this one is
quite short. I think the Quark log is at least 10 pages long.
The logs can be useful if you want to know what files have been installed
and which ones have been turfed. The record also contains the path to each
file installed, which means that if you have a printout, you could (Whether
you would want to or not is another thing!) follow each path and eliminate
the files one by one. (At least you'd appreciate the speed and comfort of
using an installer in the first place!)
In the install record below, the first three lines give administrative
details of the install, such as:
Date of the install;
The start time;
The installed file reference (e.g. AUOffice2004111EN -- which I interpret as
Apple Update Office 2004, Day?? or Record?? 111, English);
A record of the type of install (in this case "Easy Install").
The very last two lines of the record show the end time of the installation
and identify that the installation completed normally.
The in-between lines are strictly installation items. Each line begins with
one of the keywords or expressions: "Updated, "Installed", or "Created the
folder". The details after the keywords represent the file pathway the
installer followed to perform one of its functions:
Either to install a new file or folder;
Remove an old file; or
Identify the activity actually performed.
So, it would seem that if the installer log is a consistent and accurate
record of what has been installed, then a relatively straight forward
general purpose uninstaller could probably be written to read the installer
log and remove the files. [How's your Applescript or Perl scripting, Eric?]
Of course this would only work for programs using an installer and creating
an installer log. It would also require that you retain installer logs for
original installs and any updates installed. [We wouldn't throw them away,
now, would we? :-) ]
Any programs that would be installed by dragging onto your drive, could,
presumably just be dragged to the trash, to uninstall.
Larry
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Tuesday, October 12, 2004 08:07 PM Beginning installation.
AUOffice2004111EN
Type of Install: Easy Install
Updated _OSX:Applications:Microsoft Office 2004:Microsoft Entourage -
Original file moved to trash.
Updated _OSX:Applications:Microsoft Office 2004:Microsoft Excel - Original
file has been deleted.
Updated _OSX:Applications:Microsoft Office 2004:Microsoft PowerPoint -
Original file has been deleted.
Updated _OSX:Applications:Microsoft Office 2004:Microsoft Word - Original
file moved to trash.
Installed _OSX:Applications:Microsoft Office 2004:Office:Database Utility
Created the Folder: _OSX:Applications:Microsoft Office 2004:Office:Microsoft
Cert Manager.app
Created the Folder: _OSX:Applications:Microsoft Office 2004:Office:Microsoft
Cert Manager.app:Contents
Installed _OSX:Applications:Microsoft Office 2004:Office:Microsoft Cert
Manager.app:Contents:Info.plist
Created the Folder: _OSX:Applications:Microsoft Office 2004:Office:Microsoft
Cert Manager.app:Contents:MacOS
Installed _OSX:Applications:Microsoft Office 2004:Office:Microsoft Cert
Manager.app:Contents:MacOS:Microsoft Cert Manager
Created the Folder: _OSX:Applications:Microsoft Office 2004:Office:Microsoft
Cert Manager.app:Contents:MacOS:MicrosoftCertUI.bundle
Created the Folder: _OSX:Applications:Microsoft Office 2004:Office:Microsoft
Cert Manager.app:Contents:MacOS:MicrosoftCertUI.bundle:Contents
Installed _OSX:Applications:Microsoft Office 2004:Office:Microsoft Cert
Manager.app:Contents:MacOS:MicrosoftCertUI.bundle:Contents:Info.plist
Created the Folder: _OSX:Applications:Microsoft Office 2004:Office:Microsoft
Cert Manager.app:Contents:MacOS:MicrosoftCertUI.bundle:Contents:MacOS
Installed _OSX:Applications:Microsoft Office 2004:Office:Microsoft Cert
Manager.app:Contents:MacOS:MicrosoftCertUI.bundle:Contents:MacOS:MicrosoftCe
rtUI
Installed _OSX:Applications:Microsoft Office 2004:Office:Microsoft Cert
Manager.app:Contents:MacOS:MicrosoftCertUI.bundle:Contents:PkgInfo
Created the Folder: _OSX:Applications:Microsoft Office 2004:Office:Microsoft
Cert Manager.app:Contents:MacOS:MicrosoftCertUI.bundle:Contents:Resources
Installed _OSX:Applications:Microsoft Office 2004:Office:Microsoft Cert
Manager.app:Contents:MacOS:MicrosoftCertUI.bundle:Contents:Resources:CertExp
ort.strings
Installed _OSX:Applications:Microsoft Office 2004:Office:Microsoft Cert
Manager.app:Contents:MacOS:MicrosoftCertUI.bundle:Contents:Resources:CertImp
ort.strings
Installed _OSX:Applications:Microsoft Office 2004:Office:Microsoft Cert
Manager.app:Contents:MacOS:MicrosoftCertUI.bundle:Contents:Resources:CertMan
ager.strings
Installed _OSX:Applications:Microsoft Office 2004:Office:Microsoft Cert
Manager.app:Contents:MacOS:MicrosoftCertUI.bundle:Contents:Resources:CertMgr
Delete.png
Installed _OSX:Applications:Microsoft Office 2004:Office:Microsoft Cert
Manager.app:Contents:MacOS:MicrosoftCertUI.bundle:Contents:Resources:CertMgr
Export.png
Installed _OSX:Applications:Microsoft Office 2004:Office:Microsoft Cert
Manager.app:Contents:MacOS:MicrosoftCertUI.bundle:Contents:Resources:CertMgr
Import.png
Installed _OSX:Applications:Microsoft Office 2004:Office:Microsoft Cert
Manager.app:Contents:MacOS:MicrosoftCertUI.bundle:Contents:Resources:CertMgr
View.png
Created the Folder: _OSX:Applications:Microsoft Office 2004:Office:Microsoft
Cert
Manager.app:Contents:MacOS:MicrosoftCertUI.bundle:Contents:Resources:English
.lproj
Installed _OSX:Applications:Microsoft Office 2004:Office:Microsoft Cert
Manager.app:Contents:MacOS:MicrosoftCertUI.bundle:Contents:Resources:English
.lproj:InfoPlist.strings
Installed _OSX:Applications:Microsoft Office 2004:Office:Microsoft Cert
Manager.app:Contents:MacOS:MicrosoftCertUI.bundle:Contents:Resources:expired
.icns
Installed _OSX:Applications:Microsoft Office 2004:Office:Microsoft Cert
Manager.app:Contents:MacOS:MicrosoftCertUI.bundle:Contents:Resources:InfoPli
st.strings
Installed _OSX:Applications:Microsoft Office 2004:Office:Microsoft Cert
Manager.app:Contents:MacOS:MicrosoftCertUI.bundle:Contents:Resources:Microso
ftCertUI.rsrc
Installed _OSX:Applications:Microsoft Office 2004:Office:Microsoft Cert
Manager.app:Contents:MacOS:MicrosoftCertUI.bundle:Contents:Resources:smime.i
cns
Installed _OSX:Applications:Microsoft Office 2004:Office:Microsoft Cert
Manager.app:Contents:MacOS:MicrosoftCertUI.bundle:Contents:Resources:smime_e
xpired.icns
Installed _OSX:Applications:Microsoft Office 2004:Office:Microsoft Cert
Manager.app:Contents:MacOS:MicrosoftCertUI.bundle:Contents:Resources:sslauth
.icns
Installed _OSX:Applications:Microsoft Office 2004:Office:Microsoft Cert
Manager.app:Contents:MacOS:MicrosoftCertUI.bundle:Contents:Resources:sslauth
_expired.icns
Installed _OSX:Applications:Microsoft Office 2004:Office:Microsoft Cert
Manager.app:Contents:PkgInfo
Created the Folder: _OSX:Applications:Microsoft Office 2004:Office:Microsoft
Cert Manager.app:Contents:Resources
Installed _OSX:Applications:Microsoft Office 2004:Office:Microsoft Cert
Manager.app:Contents:Resources:CertMgr.icns
Installed _OSX:Applications:Microsoft Office 2004:Office:Microsoft Cert
Manager.app:Contents:Resources:InfoPlist.strings
Installed _OSX:Applications:Microsoft Office 2004:Office:Microsoft Cert
Manager.app:Contents:Resources:Microsoft Cert Manager.rsrc
Installed _OSX:Applications:Microsoft Office 2004:Office:Microsoft Clip
Gallery
Installed _OSX:Applications:Microsoft Office 2004:Office:Microsoft Component
Plugin
Installed _OSX:Applications:Microsoft Office 2004:Office:Microsoft Database
Daemon
Installed _OSX:Applications:Microsoft Office 2004:Office:Microsoft Framework
Installed _OSX:Applications:Microsoft Office 2004:Office:Microsoft Graph
Installed _OSX:Applications:Microsoft Office 2004:Office:Microsoft Office
Installed _OSX:Applications:Microsoft Office 2004:Office:Microsoft Office
Notifications
Installed _OSX:Applications:Microsoft Office 2004:Office:Microsoft OLE
Automation
Created the Folder: _OSX:Applications:Microsoft Office
2004:Office:MicrosoftCertUI.bundle
Created the Folder: _OSX:Applications:Microsoft Office
2004:Office:MicrosoftCertUI.bundle:Contents
Installed _OSX:Applications:Microsoft Office
2004:Office:MicrosoftCertUI.bundle:Contents:Info.plist
Created the Folder: _OSX:Applications:Microsoft Office
2004:Office:MicrosoftCertUI.bundle:Contents:MacOS
Installed _OSX:Applications:Microsoft Office
2004:Office:MicrosoftCertUI.bundle:Contents:MacOS:MicrosoftCertUI
Installed _OSX:Applications:Microsoft Office
2004:Office:MicrosoftCertUI.bundle:Contents:PkgInfo
Created the Folder: _OSX:Applications:Microsoft Office
2004:Office:MicrosoftCertUI.bundle:Contents:Resources
Installed _OSX:Applications:Microsoft Office
2004:Office:MicrosoftCertUI.bundle:Contents:Resources:CertExport.strings
Installed _OSX:Applications:Microsoft Office
2004:Office:MicrosoftCertUI.bundle:Contents:Resources:CertImport.strings
Installed _OSX:Applications:Microsoft Office
2004:Office:MicrosoftCertUI.bundle:Contents:Resources:CertManager.strings
Installed _OSX:Applications:Microsoft Office
2004:Office:MicrosoftCertUI.bundle:Contents:Resources:CertMgrDelete.png
Installed _OSX:Applications:Microsoft Office
2004:Office:MicrosoftCertUI.bundle:Contents:Resources:CertMgrExport.png
Installed _OSX:Applications:Microsoft Office
2004:Office:MicrosoftCertUI.bundle:Contents:Resources:CertMgrImport.png
Installed _OSX:Applications:Microsoft Office
2004:Office:MicrosoftCertUI.bundle:Contents:Resources:CertMgrView.png
Created the Folder: _OSX:Applications:Microsoft Office
2004:Office:MicrosoftCertUI.bundle:Contents:Resources:English.lproj
Installed _OSX:Applications:Microsoft Office
2004:Office:MicrosoftCertUI.bundle:Contents:Resources:English.lproj:InfoPlis
t.strings
Installed _OSX:Applications:Microsoft Office
2004:Office:MicrosoftCertUI.bundle:Contents:Resources:expired.icns
Installed _OSX:Applications:Microsoft Office
2004:Office:MicrosoftCertUI.bundle:Contents:Resources:InfoPlist.strings
Installed _OSX:Applications:Microsoft Office
2004:Office:MicrosoftCertUI.bundle:Contents:Resources:MicrosoftCertUI.rsrc
Installed _OSX:Applications:Microsoft Office
2004:Office:MicrosoftCertUI.bundle:Contents:Resources:smime.icns
Installed _OSX:Applications:Microsoft Office
2004:Office:MicrosoftCertUI.bundle:Contents:Resources:smime_expired.icns
Installed _OSX:Applications:Microsoft Office
2004:Office:MicrosoftCertUI.bundle:Contents:Resources:sslauth.icns
Installed _OSX:Applications:Microsoft Office
2004:Office:MicrosoftCertUI.bundle:Contents:Resources:sslauth_expired.icns
Installed _OSX:Applications:Microsoft Office 2004:Office:Project Gallery
Launcher
Installed _OSX:Applications:Microsoft Office 2004:Office:SAU.tar.gz
Created the Folder: _OSX:Applications:Microsoft Office
2004:Office:SetupAssistant.bundle
Created the Folder: _OSX:Applications:Microsoft Office
2004:Office:SetupAssistant.bundle:Contents
Installed _OSX:Applications:Microsoft Office
2004:Office:SetupAssistant.bundle:Contents:Info.plist
Created the Folder: _OSX:Applications:Microsoft Office
2004:Office:SetupAssistant.bundle:Contents:MacOS
Installed _OSX:Applications:Microsoft Office
2004:Office:SetupAssistant.bundle:Contents:MacOS:SetupAssistant
Installed _OSX:Applications:Microsoft Office
2004:Office:SetupAssistant.bundle:Contents:PkgInfo
Created the Folder: _OSX:Applications:Microsoft Office
2004:Office:SetupAssistant.bundle:Contents:Resources
Created the Folder: _OSX:Applications:Microsoft Office
2004:Office:SetupAssistant.bundle:Contents:Resources:EULAs
Created the Folder: _OSX:Applications:Microsoft Office
2004:Office:SetupAssistant.bundle:Contents:Resources:EULAs:Standard
Installed _OSX:Applications:Microsoft Office
2004:Office:SetupAssistant.bundle:Contents:Resources:EULAs:Standard:DEU.rtf
Installed _OSX:Applications:Microsoft Office
2004:Office:SetupAssistant.bundle:Contents:Resources:EULAs:Standard:ENU.rtf
Installed _OSX:Applications:Microsoft Office
2004:Office:SetupAssistant.bundle:Contents:Resources:EULAs:Standard:ESN.rtf
Installed _OSX:Applications:Microsoft Office
2004:Office:SetupAssistant.bundle:Contents:Resources:EULAs:Standard:FRA.rtf
Installed _OSX:Applications:Microsoft Office
2004:Office:SetupAssistant.bundle:Contents:Resources:EULAs:Standard:ITA.rtf
Installed _OSX:Applications:Microsoft Office
2004:Office:SetupAssistant.bundle:Contents:Resources:EULAs:Standard:JPN.txt
Installed _OSX:Applications:Microsoft Office
2004:Office:SetupAssistant.bundle:Contents:Resources:EULAs:Standard:SVE.rtf
Created the Folder: _OSX:Applications:Microsoft Office
2004:Office:SetupAssistant.bundle:Contents:Resources:EULAs:StudentTeacher
Installed _OSX:Applications:Microsoft Office
2004:Office:SetupAssistant.bundle:Contents:Resources:EULAs:StudentTeacher:DE
U.rtf
Installed _OSX:Applications:Microsoft Office
2004:Office:SetupAssistant.bundle:Contents:Resources:EULAs:StudentTeacher:EN
U.rtf
Installed _OSX:Applications:Microsoft Office
2004:Office:SetupAssistant.bundle:Contents:Resources:EULAs:StudentTeacher:ES
N.rtf
Installed _OSX:Applications:Microsoft Office
2004:Office:SetupAssistant.bundle:Contents:Resources:EULAs:StudentTeacher:FR
A.rtf
Installed _OSX:Applications:Microsoft Office
2004:Office:SetupAssistant.bundle:Contents:Resources:EULAs:StudentTeacher:IT
A.rtf
Installed _OSX:Applications:Microsoft Office
2004:Office:SetupAssistant.bundle:Contents:Resources:EULAs:StudentTeacher:SV
E.rtf
Created the Folder: _OSX:Applications:Microsoft Office
2004:Office:SetupAssistant.bundle:Contents:Resources:EULAs:SystemBuilder
Installed _OSX:Applications:Microsoft Office
2004:Office:SetupAssistant.bundle:Contents:Resources:EULAs:SystemBuilder:
ENU.rtf
Installed _OSX:Applications:Microsoft Office
2004:Office:SetupAssistant.bundle:Contents:Resources:InfoPlist.strings
Installed _OSX:Applications:Microsoft Office
2004:Office:SetupAssistant.bundle:Contents:Resources:iViseRenames.plist
Installed _OSX:Applications:Microsoft Office
2004:Office:SetupAssistant.bundle:Contents:Resources:Localizable.strings
Installed _OSX:Applications:Microsoft Office
2004:Office:SetupAssistant.bundle:Contents:Resources:Setup.plist
Installed _OSX:Applications:Microsoft Office
2004:Office:SetupAssistant.bundle:Contents:Resources:SetupAssistant.rsrc
Installed _OSX:Applications:Microsoft Office
2004:Office:SetupAssistant.bundle:Contents:Resources:SetupDescriptions.strin
gs
Installed _OSX:Applications:Microsoft Office
2004:Office:SetupAssistant.bundle:Contents:Resources:SetupNames.strings
Created the Folder: _OSX:Applications:Microsoft Office
2004:Office:ShMem.bundle
Created the Folder: _OSX:Applications:Microsoft Office
2004:Office:ShMem.bundle:Contents
Installed _OSX:Applications:Microsoft Office
2004:Office:ShMem.bundle:Contents:Info.plist
Created the Folder: _OSX:Applications:Microsoft Office
2004:Office:ShMem.bundle:Contents:MacOS
Installed _OSX:Applications:Microsoft Office
2004:Office:ShMem.bundle:Contents:MacOS:ShMem
Installed _OSX:Applications:Microsoft Office
2004:Office:ShMem.bundle:Contents:PkgInfo
Installed _OSX:Applications:Microsoft Office 2004:Office:Support
Files:FontCacheTool
Installed _OSX:Applications:Microsoft Office 2004:Office:Type
Libraries:Excel 11 Type Library
Installed _OSX:Applications:Microsoft Office 2004:Office:Type
Libraries:Office 11 Type Library
Installed _OSX:Applications:Microsoft Office 2004:Office:Type
Libraries:PowerPoint 11 Type Library
Installed _OSX:Applications:Microsoft Office 2004:Office:Type Libraries:Word
11 Type Library
Installed _OSX:Applications:Microsoft Office 2004:Office:Visual Basic for
Applications
Installed _OSX:Applications:Microsoft Office 2004:Additional Tools:Remote
Desktop Connection:Remote Desktop Connection
Tuesday, October 12, 2004 08:08 PM
The installation is complete.
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On 04/11/17 07:03 PM, "Eric D" <hideme666@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> On 17-Nov-04, at 3:07 PM, William R McGrath wrote:
>>
>>> There isn't any uninstall procedure in the Mac world that I know of.
>>> Just
>>> drag it to the trash. There may be resources installed in your system
>>> folder
>>> though. They will have to draggedto the trash as well. Have a look.
>>>
>>> Bill
>>
>> Actually there are a lot of programmes in the Mac world that have
>> uninstall procedures, especially prior to O/S X. Almost all mac O/Ss
>> had an uninstall feature which also removed many of the ancillary files
>> that are so intrusive, Micosaft is a typical standout.
>> TTFN,
>
> This is a major flaw in Apple's OS design (uninstall). Windows (though
> flawed in implementation... don't know how XP works though) at least
> attempts to provide a centralised un-install app. Linux, the cheapest of all
> OSes actually has some pretty good solutions for tracking apps and
> uninstalling them (it's amazing that Windows and Mac, two OSes that have had
> millions, perhaps even billions of $ thrown at them haven't figured out how
> to do this properly)!
>
> In Mac it wasn't much of a problem prior to OS X -- applications were
> entirely self-contained with only a little bit of crap in the system folder
> (& Microsoft was actually quite good since they made sure their extensions
> were good Mac citizens). In OS X some apps do need un-installers since they
> install their crap everywhere. In fact, if an app requires an installer,
> chances are it also requires an un-installer (& unfortunately Apple doesn't
> provide a centralised un-install app).
>
> Two considerations:
> OS 9 - If available, run the un-installer to remove the extensions/control
> panels from the System Folder. Otherwise, delete throw the application
> folder in the trash and see if you can figure out which extensions (if any)
> the app installed.
>
> OS X - if availabe, run the un-installer. It will remove most of the crap.
> Otherwise, throw the application icon in the trash (provided it's not an
> alias) and everything should be ok. Even if crap is left lying around it
> won't interfere with your computer (aside from taking up space). If you do
> find that there are remnants of the app active, go into the Accounts:Startup
> Items preferences pane and remove the startup item(s) pertaining to your
> app.
>
> PS Microsoft Office/IE are actually some of the _best_ Mac citizens out
> there. They don't put files where they don't belong and they don't install
> unstable extensions/libraries (& in OS X neither Office nor IE install
> anything).
>
> Eric.
>
>
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