Hi Carolyn...sorry to tell you that there is no "easy" way to create a Table of Contents without Styles...and I'm not going to "bash" you for not wanting to use styles (and hopefully Dian won't either LOL)...however, I can assure you if you want to use Word as it was intended to be used, you really need to get used to using Styles...not only becuz it makes lots of things easier in Word...but also becuz it will prevent many problems with documents down the road....especially with them "big books" you describe. Styles and Table of Contents are ONLY a pain in the butt, when you have a large document that was created without using Styles in the first place...then, yes it is a very time-consuming process to go thru the entire document and add the correct Heading Styles to all the entries you want Word to put into the TOC...but if you get used to using Styles and use them right from the get-go when you initially create the document, then the TOC surely is "brilliant" and quick. Here's a very brief little intro to Tables of Contents and Styles that I wrote for The Newbie Club...it's really not that difficult: http://newbieclub.com/officetips/20011206.htm So...the short answer is, "Sorry..without Styles, there is no 'easy' way to do Tables of Contents." __________________ Now to answer Anne's original question...unfortunately the answer is "no" in Publisher...I even checked Publisher 2003 and there doesn't seem to be a way to automate TOCs in there yet...all the help documentation discusses how to do it manually :-( Linda F. Johnson, M.A., MOS Linda's Computer Stop http://personal-computer-tutor.com Free e-Books, Newsletter, and tutorials -----Original Message----- From: mso-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:mso-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Carolyn O Phillips Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 10:19 AM To: mso@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [mso] Re: Publisher/Word - table of contents Dear Anne R. and all: Can't help but to butt in here. I don't know a thing about Publisher, but I must question your comment that the Table of Contents feature in Word is "brilliant." Please explain! ************************************************************* You are receiving this mail because you subscribed to mso@xxxxxxxxxxxxx or MicrosoftOffice@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To send mail to the group, simply address it to mso@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To Unsubscribe from this group, send an email to mso-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" (without the quotes) in the subject line. Or, visit the group's homepage and use the dropdown menu. This will also allow you to change your email settings to digest or vacation (no mail). //www.freelists.org/webpage/mso To be able to use the files section for sharing files with the group, send a request to mso-moderators@xxxxxxxxxxxxx and you will be sent an invitation with instructions. Once you are a member of the files group, you can go here to upload/download files: http://www.smartgroups.com/vault/msofiles *************************************************************