Glenda, I don't know that the sumif and countif functions can handle multiple criteria. If that is the case, Access will probably be your best bet. If they need that much, you may want to consider getting the Developers Edition of Office. It allows you to create run-time versions of your application so that they don't need Access on their computers. It may be worth your while into working that into their fee. :o) James La Borde South Western Federal Credit Union -----Original Message----- From: Glenda Wells [mailto:gwells@xxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2003 10:27 AM To: 'mso@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' Subject: [mso] Re: If or Average? Excel :VSMail mx2 Thanks. I'll give your suggestions a try. I didn't even think of SumIF or CountIF. I was trying IF/Average and getting nowhere. There are actually 10 columns that need averages based on a variety of criteria, not just state. For example I may need high score, calculated index and SAT averages for students who are female, freshman, basketball player, physics majors from Illinois. OR high score, calculated index and SAT averages for students who are female, freshman, basketball player, physics majors from Illinois whose GPA falls within a specific range. I think it can get complicated and because THEY don't even have Access on THEIR systems and claim to be PROFICIENT in Excel, I'm trying to keep it as simple as I can for the time being. I have to make charts on this too. blecch! /g -----Original Message----- From: James LaBorde [mailto:jlaborde@xxxxxxxxx] Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2003 1:08 PM To: 'mso@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' Subject: [mso] Re: If or Average? Excel :VSMail mx3 Glenda, Someone else may have a better solution but I wonder if the SUMIF and COUNTIF functions wouldn't be of use here. Maybe something like: =SumIF(A1:A50,"Illinois",B1:B50)/CountIF(A1:A50, "Illinois") This should give you an average for the given state. I'll sneak a plug in for Access here as it would be able to do the work for you on this and give you an average for each state listed in your file if you wanted it to. Just a thought. It all depends on what you need out of the data. James La Borde South Western Federal Credit Union -----Original Message----- From: Glenda Wells [mailto:gwells@xxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2003 9:47 AM To: 'mso@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' Subject: [mso] Re: If or Average? Excel :VSMail mx3 Maybe this is a better question... How can I average one named range if another named range has a specific value? example (hopefully makes sense) If named range State value = Illinois, average named range Sales (where the state value = Illinois) /g -----Original Message----- From: Glenda Wells [mailto:gwells@xxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2003 12:28 PM To: 'mso@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' Subject: [mso] If or Average? Excel Hi All. I would like to do averages by state. I have a list of states with the values I want to average on. I just can't figure out how to get the average. Well, I could do a subtotal thing but I want the averages to stand alone so I can do charts and such. Any ideas, please send them on. I'm practically exhausted with the process I've been working on the past 2 weeks and can't think straight. 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