[moneytalks] Re: Shift+Tab does not announce new field name inself-voicing mode.
- From: "Suzy" <TheBlindAvenger@xxxxxxx>
- To: <moneytalks@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 09:52:22 -0600
Hi Everyone,
Thank you for letting me know this issue needed a bit more exploration. I
failed to mention one thing in my steps to reproduce, because I was not
aware it would matter. Therefore, I'll start over.
I had to install a fresh version of the Money Talks beta, due to some major
computer issues. When I launched the program, both JAWS 8.0 and Toshiba Male
Adult (U.S.) were talking at very different rates of speed. I decided to
play with the Self Voicing mode, since I had not done that in some time.
Therefore, I muted Eloquence from the JAWS Verbosity dialog and began
setting up the program. When I discovered the Shift+Tab problem, I tested it
in several dialogs, closed Money Talks and retested. As before, I muted
Eloquence after Money Talks was open. The problem was still present, so I
wrote my email.
When no one else could reproduce the issue, I started thinking and tried the
following tests.
1. I unloaded JAWS before opening Money Talks. The Shift+Tab issue was gone.
2. I switched the JAWS synthesizer to No Speech before opening Money Talks.
The Shift+Tab issue returned.
3. I tried switching to No Speech after Money Talks was open. This crashed
JAWS twice. I figure JAWS was confused by the presence of two synthesizers.
4. I created a JAWS configuration file for Money Talks and put JAWS in Sleep
Mode but did not unload the synthesizer. Once more, the Shift+Tab issue was
not reproducible.
Suzy
-----Original Message-----
From: moneytalks-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:moneytalks-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of dan ceppa
Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2006 8:16 AM
To: moneytalks@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [moneytalks] Re: Shift+Tab does not announce new field name
inself-voicing mode.
The one I'm using is the standard one that came with the program.
Suzy <TheBlindAvenger@xxxxxxx> wrote:
I used both MS Sam, and the Toshiba Male Adult voice that came with my
Toshiba Laptop. I'll try other voices, when I get them installed.
I have Dec Access 32 and a set of Real Speak voices that I can try.
Suzy
-----Original Message-----
From: moneytalks-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:moneytalks-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of LARRY SKUTCHAN
Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2006 9:33 AM
To: moneytalks@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [moneytalks] Re: Shift+Tab does not announce new field name
inself-voicing mode.
I am having trouble reproducing this one. Which speech engine are you
using?
>>> TheBlindAvenger@xxxxxxx Wednesday, December 27, 2006 9:59:03 AM
>>>
Good Morning,
I was using Money Talks in self voicing mode this morning and ran
across the
following issue in the latest beta build. If Shift+Tab is pressed in
any
dialog box, nothing is spoken. Navigation keys can be used to read the
information in the field, but the field name is never announced.
To reproduce, do this:
1. Open Money talks.
2. Turn on Self Voicing.
3. Press CTRL+T to begin a new transaction.
4. Press Tab until you pass the date field.
5. Press Shift+Tab to return to the Date field. Notice that nothing is
spoken.
6. Press Left Arrow. You should hear the number six spoken, since it is
the
last number in the current date.
7. Press Home; now you can read the date field using Right Arrow.
I tried this with several different dialogs in the program and the
results
were the same. If I did not know the program and standard Windows
dialogs as
well as I do, I would have trouble understanding what to do.
Suzy
-----Original Message-----
From: moneytalks-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:moneytalks-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of LARRY SKUTCHAN
Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2006 7:53 AM
To: moneytalks@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [moneytalks] Re: New Beta Available
Actually, when the beta expires, it will either revert to a demo of
the
currently installed beta or, if you are already a registered user,
nothing will happen. We do, however, recommend keeping up with the
latest beta if you are going to be running betas.
>>> steveziel@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Tuesday, December 26, 2006 9:21:09 PM >>>
Hi Margaret,
All the executables will have the file name of mt_beta.exe. When they
are
run the appropriate beta is extracted and installed. The most current
beta
is 1.1.0.363 and it does what Rob indicated in the quoted section you
provided. If, like me, you can't use the additional feature, then it
still
might be a good idea to download the 1.1.0.363 beta. I believe each
beta
has a built-in time expiration. After a certain date, not indicated,
the
beta will automatically revert back to the 1.1 last full release. If
you
install 1.1.0.363, you should delay this date. I suspect APH will put
out
another beta, if necessary, to make sure the betas running out there
won't
expire before the final release. And as you know you can find the
current
version you are running under help then about. Download the most
recent
release under help then update, or whatever it's called.
Cheers,
Steve
----- Original Message -----
From: "Margaret Thomas"
To:
Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2006 3:09 PM
Subject: [moneytalks] Re: New Beta Available
> Good Afternoon,
>
> What is the version number for this new Beta? I'm running
version
> 1.1.0.360 which I thought I downloaded before this announcement was
> posted, but I just went to the Beta page to try to get the latest
Beta
> and the file name is listed as
>
> mt_beta.exe
>
> which is the same file name as that of the last Beta I downloaded.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Margaret
>
> On November 27, 2006, "ROB MEREDITH" wrote:
> Subject: [moneytalks] New Beta Available
>
>
> There is a new beta version of Money Talks available. This version
> allows printing of category and subcategory info.
>
> Rob Meredith
>
>
>
>
>
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