[modeleng] Re: Welsh Highland Railway crash
- From: "BarriePurslow" <Barrie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2004 18:56:38 -0000
Rich,
The pictures on the BBC news showed a standard gauge DMU on standard gauge
track!
I think I recognised the crossing as the one at the opposite end of the town
to the harbour station.
Barrie Purslow
WarringtonUK
----- Original Message -----
From: "R.L. Roebuck" <rlr20@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2004 1:55 PM
Subject: [modeleng] Welsh Highland Railway crash
> PS I heard something on the radio the other day about a crash between a
> loco and van on the Welsh Highland Railway in Portmadog - did anyone else
> hear anything about that? Has there been some confusion - I didn't think
> that there was any crossings on the Portmadog stretch of Welsh Highland
> railway line?
>
> On Thu, 16 Dec 2004, R.L. Roebuck wrote:
>
> > Hi there Paul,
> >
> > Surely the automatic crossings only cost 335000 pounds for the type that
> > the fullsize railways use because of all of the extra safety features
that
> > they use to make sure that barriers don't fail to come down properly.
> >
> > BUT
> >
> > In the case of RHDR where you are operating without barriers anyway,
> > anything would be better than nothing. Surely someone could design
> > something that would make the situation a bit safer for the loco driver
> > and passengers for onbly a handful of thousand pounds a time, and these
> > could be installed on the 'worst' crossings.
> >
> > OR
> >
> > Is the 335000 pounds to do with some department of transport related
> > costs?
> >
> > Don't get me wrong, I 100% agree with you that we shouldn't have to go
> > down this route, it is the idiots in the cars who try to jump the lights
> > that are to blame, but I always like to do my best in life to not let
the
> > idiots have any kind of 'say' as to whether I live or die; and I do have
> > this fear that our steam 'activities' may one day get severely curtailed
> > as a knock on effect of the idiots, unless we are incredibly careful.
> >
> >
> > Yours,
> >
> >
> > Rich.
> >
> >
> > On Thu, 16 Dec 2004, Paul Sherriff wrote:
> >
> > > I used to be involved with the Romney Hythe and Dymchurch railway a
few
> > > years and having been on the footplate a few times, I can say that
when =
> > > you
> > > approached the 'notorious' crossings, your heart was in your mouth.
One
> > > crossing in particular was on the approach to Hythe and seemed to be =
> > > where
> > > all the recent accidents have been. Don't know why...
> > >
> > > I was on the footplate with one well known driver on the railway, Mike
> > > Jaques, when a landrover shot across the front of us a mere 10-15' =
> > > away. He
> > > said there would be a phone call to the office from an angry local =
> > > resident
> > > complaining that the lights were not working and he was nearly hit by
a
> > > train.
> > >
> > > Crap... The lights come on when the train is about 200yds from the =
> > > crossing
> > > and we see a flashing white light from the footplate, a mirror on the
=
> > > lamp
> > > the motorists see... Along with full sized A4 style (and 2 original
A4)
> > > whistles, blasting away as a matter of course there is no excuse.
> > >
> > > The RHDR can't afford barriered crossings, they cost =A335,000 each
and =
> > > the
> > > railway doesn't make that much spare cash in 2 years...and there are
16
> > > crossings.
> > >
> > > A loco (Black Prince) was taken off the tracks a couple of years ago,
=
> > > no one
> > > was seriously injured but last year, Kevin Crouch, a lovely lad who
was =
> > > a
> > > regular signalman at Hythe with me was killed when driving 'Samson'
> > >
> > > Would you believe that a woman, impatient to wait behind several cars
=
> > > that
> > > had parked up waiting for the train to cross, overtook them and =
> > > collided
> > > with the loco. She lived, although how she did in a Ford Escort as =
> > > opposed
> > > to 22 tons of engine, 32 tons of carriages and 4 or 5 tons of people =
> > > still
> > > beggars belief. Kevin was killed in between the 'scissored' engine and
> > > tender.
> > >
> > > I just don't understand the mentality of people like this and the more
=
> > > I
> > > learn about these people the more I love my dog...
> > >
> > > Sorry for sounding off but at least I have delurked now...
> > >
> > > Rgds
> > >
> > > Paul
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