Hey, Len! I think that you and I were born in the same time period---pre WWII. Our Living Room stove also had Mica windows. Al Messer -- Len Smith <parnobal2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Being of a certain age, I can remember mica used as > the "window" in black iron coke stoves. I've seen it > overheated quite often, which was common in that > application. It only ever went to whitish ash in my > experience. I've seen plenty of burned out clothes > irons too, and never seen anything that was pink, > only blackened crusting. > Len Smith > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Roger Mason > To: Model Engineering List - Latest > Sent: Sunday, August 08, 2004 8:41 AM > Subject: [modeleng] Mica? > > Hi All, > > I've just had a disaster! > > I have a large electric soldering iron (300 > watts). I was using > this the other day when a sort of Frying noise > came from it. Shortly > afterwards I realised that it was cooling down, > despite still being > plugged in and turned on. I quickly discovered > that the element was > open circuit. > > So in the "nothing ventured - nothing gained" > spirit I opened up the > iron. I eventually found the secret to getting > inside it and found the > element very easy to get to. > > The element was a simple coil of heater wire > insulated in sheets of > translucent material which I assumed was mica. > However as I delved > deeper into the element the sheets of mica became > "welded" together. > It appears that the element produced a 'hot-spot'. > In this region the > mica has changed in appearance and texture. > Instead of being sheet > material with a slippery feel, it was a pink > brittle uniform > substance, which looked for all the world like > the pink plaster one > uses on walls of a room. I carefully chipped > this away and came to a > hollow lump of what looked like a black glassy > substance - very like > silver solder flux which has melted and > solidified. I presumed this > is where the frying came from - a little arc > between the element and an > end wire. > > My questions are - was this insulation > material really mica? Does > mica behave in this way? If it was not mica what > was it? Have the > chemists come up with a modern alternative for > natural mica? > > In the meantime I am trying to find a source > for a new element. > The iron was made by Goot, a Japanese company who > have a web site, so > I have asked if they have a U.K. dealer who can > supply me - but maybe > someone on this list has this knowledge. > > I look forward to the list's input on this > topic. > > > Cheers, > > > Roger Mason, in St. Agnes. > > MODEL ENGINEERING DISCUSSION LIST. > > To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list, send a blank email > to, > modeleng-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word > "unsubscribe" in the subject line. > > MODEL ENGINEERING DISCUSSION LIST. > > To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list, send a blank email > to, > modeleng-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word > "unsubscribe" in the subject line. > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - 100MB free storage! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail MODEL ENGINEERING DISCUSSION LIST. To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list, send a blank email to, modeleng-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject line.