At 01:58 PM 11/26/04 -0800, you wrote: >Harry, you have much more patience than I have to attempt a project such as >this. Got any photos yet? Al, Idiocy perhaps? If you mean the current boiler project, yes I have quite a few but I haven't edited them for posting on my picture site yet. I have made a quick paper mockup of the wrapper, using a plot provided me by someone on another list, and it appears that the geometry is right. For anyone interested, the current project is a boiler and superstructure (fittings, cleading, domes, stack, and full front end) for a 7/8" scale / Ga1 model of Gilpin Tramway #3, a 2-truck 24"ga Shay locomotve. The cleading consists of two cylindrical, parallel, non-coaxial sections, of different diameters, joined by an abrupt conical transition section. The boiler itself is also two cylindrical, parallel, non-coaxial sections, of different diameters, but joined at a flanged head (flat). My next-of-kin have already been notified, if I should ever accept something like this again I am to be marched out back and shot, . . . or at least severely scolded. Regards, Harry MODEL ENGINEERING DISCUSSION LIST. To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list, send a blank email to, modeleng-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject line.