Re: [MoAccess] Updates
- From: "Clarence Griffin" <goldfingas@xxxxxxx>
- To: <MoAccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 12:55:44 -0400
I just may do that. You guys that don't have the xs are going to hate me for
this. Its so easy and cool to record right from performance mode. I just got
one of my other computers up and running, so I may work on something walking
you threw the basics of the groove grid and all that as well. I have been
picking up tidbits of info from Bryan on his off time, and I must say that
folks, this board takes composing music to a hole new level. I will be
posting something soon. And I have an idea... Maybe we can find a place
where we can share sounds, song ideas that we may want to work on with other
people or something, like a user pool or repository. Is there a way we can
make that happen?
GF
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From: moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Bryan Smart
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 12:45 PM
To: MoAccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [MoAccess] Updates
I appreciate the help with the ES side of things. I put together a good bit
of documentation, but it isn't always the easiest to understand for
non-technical types. You guys do a great service by putting these audio
tutorials together. You help people to understand the information that is
out there.
Look, I know that everyone with their XS wants to have full access to
everything right away. I totally understand that feeling. Just remember
that, while I'm further along in the process than you all, I'm still
learning. When I got the XS in April, I was determined that the XS wasn't
going to be a 12+ month learning process like the ES. At the time I worked
on that for the ES, I even had the info that everyone had assembled from the
classic to use as a base, since the classic and ES had such similar screens.
It took me 8-12 months to get up to speed with most every function, and it
took almost two years to finish all of the documentation. As you all know,
the XS has entirely new screens, but, even so, I'm way ahead of schedule.
Here we are, around 4 months since the XS shipped, and I received mine in
the first batch, and I'm almost entirely through the entire board. I'm
wrapping up the really difficult stuff now like using the XS as a control
surface, figuring out how to use all of the last little macro jobs in the
sequencers to do stuff like create rolls, split notes out to separate
tracks, etc. This is all stuff that we never really documented for the ES,
and we'll have it on the XS.
So, I know that everyone is saying that, if I've figured all of this stuff
out, why not share. I want to do that, and I've been trying to do that.
Right now, though, I'm trying to get info while the getting is good. I still
have Athan Billias from Yamaha working with me on figuring a lot of this
out, and I'm trying to help John Melas get his problems addressed through
Athan instead of having him go through Yamaha tech support and the forums. I
appreciate Athan's help, but the history on things like this makes it likely
that he'll eventually get pretty busy, and won't have help to assist us as
much. I want to be sure that I have as much info as I can before that
happens. If John Melas has to go through Yamaha tech support and the forums
to get the little bugs that are blocking hhis editors addressed, it will be
forever before those bugs get submitted to someone at Yamaha that knows
what's up, tests them to be sure that they're really bugs, and schedules
them for some eventual OS update. If he has to go that route, we could be
looking at
8-12 months before we get good accessible editors, instead of another 2
months.
I'm sure that you all can understand why things have been working out the
way that they have for the XS and accessibility. Truthfully, even though
things are really going very good, the day-to-day situation is annoying to
me, also. There are times when I've worked up full access to an area of the
XS, and I want to get cracking on some new idea that involves that feature,
but I have to put it on hold so that I can keep working on collecting info
and moving the process along. I'll be so happy when, at least, the
information collection part of this process is over, so that I can get down
to making a lot of music with the XS.
I've posted my notes on MoAccess. They aren't pretty, but they're what I
have. I'll have this control panel tutorial ready quite soon. I'm not
holding out on anyone. Some people want specific help with certain features,
but working on that kinda takes away from the general work that benefits
everyone. I have the live assistance number, where I'll walk you through
certain tasks based on the info that I already have, but that info is posted
to the web already. In most cases, on the support line, I'm just helping you
understand what is already available.
Some people need that. I'm glad to help. If anyone wants to take my notes
and start working on tutorials, then that would be great.
Two or three months from now, we'll have complete documentation, accessible
editors, and audio tutorials. If things go right, 6 or 8 months from now, we
may have a basic display reader. Don't think that nothing is happening. I
try to post updates to let everyone know how things are progressing. We're
on very good track for a very good situation.
GF, would you like to make just a demonstration of what is possible in
performance mode with the live control features? I showed you how to operate
the live control features and record songs and patterns by playing
performances in real time. Perhaps you can demo that up for people in an
informal way. The Motif XS as incredible sounding, fully programmable, and
instantly recordable accompaniment keyboard is a big new features since the
ES.
Bryan
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From: moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Emccullough1
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 11:43 AM
To: MoAccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [MoAccess] Updates
I absolutely agree one hundred percent. You and Bryan can handle the XS side
of tutorials and Driza and I can handle the ES tutorials. As a matter of
fact, there will be some more ES tutorials from me soon dealing with copying
performances to the pattern sequencer, ETC. We can all make this community
of Moe users work.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Clarence Griffin" <goldfingas@xxxxxxx>
To: <MoAccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 10:19 AM
Subject: Re: [MoAccess] Updates
> If you want Bryan, you and I can sit down and maybe I can write up
> some short demos demonstrating stuff. I know that you like what you
> do, but you don't have to do it alone. That's what we all are here
> for. To help each other get the best out of this thing. I for one
> would like to get the ball rolling just a bit faster, and I am more
> than likely speaking for more than just me when I say that waiting on
> just one person to put out tutorials is lame.. I have had my xs for 2
> weeks, and still only really know the basics.
> I would love to learn to work more with arps and a few other areas of
> this instrument... Come on, let us help you any way you can. Tell us
> what you want to help you with. And I don't mean the site or anything
> like that, you can have that job. Lol. But we all shouldn't be pulling
> on you to spoon feed us. My mother is on her way over, I am going to
> try to get her to read me a couple screens... Then maybe I can write
> down a couple notes... I don't know what you have and don't have, but
> I will get what I need and see if you need it or not.. The cool thing
> about this community is that we all use out instruments differently,
> and that means that we all can take different approaches to the
> accessibility of the motif line of products..
>
> GF
> http://www.goldfingas.com
>
> Check out the block party every Thursday on The Beyond Radio Network
> http://www.tbrn.net
>
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> http://tbrn.net:8888/tbrn.ogg
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of Bryan Smart
> Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 9:48 AM
> To: moaccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [MoAccess] Updates
>
> If any of you haven't grabbed the new OS update for the Motif XS, you
> should get it from Yamahasynth.com. Haven't seen anyone post about it
> here, so just thought that I'd make sure that it is on everyones'
> radar.
>
> Driza's slice tutorial is on MoAccess.info. It was already posted to
> MIDIMag, and I know I'm a little late with it, but late is better than
> never, I guess.
>
> The accessible editors for the XS are coming along. John encountered a
> few small bugs in how the XS handles a few SysEx commands, but Athan,
> our friend at Yamaha, has been able to get the engineers to fix most
> of them already.
>
> I was working on this huge tutorial for the XS that included
> demonstrations of all of the modes. I think that I'm going to have to
> scale back my ambissions with that, though. In the next few days, I'm
> just going to put out a basic front panel and basic operation
> tutorial, simlar to the one for the ES.
>
> That's all for now.
>
> Bryan
>
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