Re: [MoAccess] Question about one of the guitar samples
- From: "Jes" <jesman598@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <MoAccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 15:51:13 -0400
Bryan, this goes back in a way to what I was saying about the xs being an
educational tool. I'm not a guitarist, so that's why I wondered why you would
want that sound on a keyboard like that. See? I learned something today, lol.
Now how can I get my piano music to sound as close to a real piano as possible,
so that people don't automatically know, oh yeah, he's playing a keyboard. I
guess the editors can help somewhat with that, right?
Jes
----- Original Message -----
From: Bryan Smart
To: MoAccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2007 2:02 PM
Subject: Re: [MoAccess] Question about one of the guitar samples
Jes, this will sound a little strange, but stuff like that can make voices
sound real. I know that, with keyboard players in particular, there is this
tendency to have everything be crystal clear and perfect. That's fine. In
dance, and some kinds of pop, that is a very popular thing to do. However,
sounding too perfect contributes to you sounding like a computer. Again,
sometimes, that is appropriate. However, if you're intending to sound like a
live band, you need to have some inperfection.
Here is an odd thought to consider. We know that live musicians don't have
computer-perfect timing, that they will occasionally not fret a string with
perfection (and so will get some bleed over or noise), that equipment will
sometimes sound a little rough, etc. So, if your goal is to sound like a group
of live rock musicians, for example, you can get a long way toward that by
trashing up your song. Quantize with a lower strength than you'd normally use
(60 to 70 percent), for example, so that the timing isn't perfect. For the
guitars, play those 60hz samples, but play them with very low velocity (so that
it is a faint hum rather than some blaring noise). Go in and edit the amp
simulator effects for the guitars so that the mics are off axis, and so that
the tone is a little more dull than you would normally want. For the
rhodes/whirly/organ sounds, make sure that you're overdriving them slightly,
even if you aren't intending to distort them (this sounds like the gear is
slightly offand also brings up the more softly sampled sounds of the tines or
tone wheels working). Over compress individual parts, especially the drums, and
the entire mix.
I know. This is everything that you're not supposed to do when you're
creating that perfect crystal clear mix. However, the perfect crystal clear mix
is what people expect out of a keyboard, where everything is pretty much
digital from end to end. However, making your sound a little dirty gives that
feel that this is real instruments being recorded. For even greater effect, you
can play each of your parts through your studio monitors, mic them, and track
them individually into your DAW. With the room sounded add on top of everything
else, it will sound like you were recording instruments and not samples.
Just some things to think about.
Bryan
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From: moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Jes
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2007 12:04 PM
To: MoAccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [MoAccess] Question about one of the guitar samples
Hi all. Just curious, why does one of the electric guitar samples have the
sound of an amp buzzing on the last two white keys on the right? Again, since
I'm a pianist and not a guitarist, I don't see the point of that.
Jes
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