[macvoiceover] Re: Voice Over Questions.
- From: Ian Edwards <ianedwards42@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 14 May 2013 09:30:11 -0600
Just a heads up regarding Pages and Numbers. While they are the equivalent to
MS Office, there are a few things that lack the power/authority you get from,
for example, JFW with MS Word. Primary among these is the use of tables, which
don't work under Voiceover. Apple Accessiblity says this is on the radar, but
the last thing they told me was that nothing could really be done until an
update to Pages itself, which hasn't happened since 2009. I also find I don't
have the same control over things like columns.
There are a couple of free word processors out there which do a decent job. I
currently use Bean quite a bit, especially for documents that need headers and
will end up as pdfs for people.
One thing to remember is that the Jaws people and the MS Office people worked
together with a particular focus on workplace productivity. Other things got
left out in the process. My needs shfited from document production to a need
for coordination, so seamless interactivity through my phone and Mac through
iCloud became really important, and I settled for *good enough* in terms of
documents.
Just some thoughts,
Ian
On 2013-05-13, at 2:05 PM, covici@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> You also have a voiceover option to make the cursor work like it does
> under Windows.
>
> John Panarese <jpanarese@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> Hi Andrew,
>> I am not sure about an SSH client, so I will leave that up to someone
>> else who is knowledgeable in that area.
>>
>> As for your editing area, remember that the cursors act differently as
>> far as how VoiceOver identifies characters. On the Mac, the character the
>> cursor passes over is spoken, while the Windows way is the character to the
>> right of the cursor. This might be what you are experiencing.
>>
>> As for an Office package, the Apple Pages and Numbers applications are the
>> equivalent to Word and Excel.
>>
>>
>> Take Care
>>
>> John D. Panarese
>> Director
>> Mac for the Blind
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>> On May 13, 2013, at 2:34 PM, "Andrew Ireland" <andrew@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Guys,
>>>
>>> I joined the list today. I have had my new Mac mini for just over a week
>>> and would be grateful if someone could clear up a few questions please.
>>> This is me moving back to Mac after 5 years.
>>>
>>> What is the best SSH client to use? I have tried terminal with no success
>>> at all. I need to connect to a CentOS system. A sighted friend recommended
>>> VSSH, however, I was reluctant to purchase it not knowing if it would be
>>> accessible with Voice Over.
>>>
>>> I am experiencing a strange problem when composing a new e-mail message in
>>> Mac Mail. If I delete 1 character and type another character it would
>>> appear to just delete the character I had just typed. If I interact with
>>> the mail window everything is fine. My question is, do you need to interact
>>> when typing a new message or using text edit?
>>>
>>> I wonder if anyone can recommend the best Office package to enable word
>>> processing and spread sheets?
>>>
>>> Many thanks in advance for any information.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Andrew.
>>>
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