[macvoiceover] Re: Voice Over Questions.
- From: Ian Edwards <ianedwards42@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 14 May 2013 11:04:41 -0600
Will download it when I get a chance today, definitely interested in the
accessibility list.
Ian
On 2013-05-14, at 10:55 AM, Keith Reedy <keithreedy@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> You can download it from,
> http://www.libreoffice.org
> And let me know if you are interested in the accessibility list.
> Keith Reedy
> keithreedy@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>
>
> On May 14, 2013, at 12:26 PM, Ian Edwards <ianedwards42@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> Keith, let me know if you come across a need for test pilots for their
>> accessibility work.
>>
>> Ian
>>
>> On 2013-05-14, at 9:59 AM, Keith Reedy <keithreedy@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>> OpenOffice is now called LibreOffice and it still has some accessibility
>>> problems. I am working with some folks on there accessibility list to try
>>> to fix them.
>>> Keith Reedy
>>> keithreedy@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On May 14, 2013, at 11:35 AM, Cindy Ray <cindyray@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>>> What about Open Office for the Mac? Someone suggested that to me.
>>>>
>>>> Cindy Lou
>>>>
>>>> On May 14, 2013, at 10:30 AM, Ian Edwards <ianedwards42@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Just a heads up regarding Pages and Numbers. While they are the
>>>>> equivalent to MS Office, there are a few things that lack the
>>>>> power/authority you get from, for example, JFW with MS Word. Primary
>>>>> among these is the use of tables, which don't work under Voiceover. Apple
>>>>> Accessiblity says this is on the radar, but the last thing they told me
>>>>> was that nothing could really be done until an update to Pages itself,
>>>>> which hasn't happened since 2009. I also find I don't have the same
>>>>> control over things like columns.
>>>>>
>>>>> There are a couple of free word processors out there which do a decent
>>>>> job. I currently use Bean quite a bit, especially for documents that need
>>>>> headers and will end up as pdfs for people.
>>>>>
>>>>> One thing to remember is that the Jaws people and the MS Office people
>>>>> worked together with a particular focus on workplace productivity. Other
>>>>> things got left out in the process. My needs shfited from document
>>>>> production to a need for coordination, so seamless interactivity through
>>>>> my phone and Mac through iCloud became really important, and I settled
>>>>> for *good enough* in terms of documents.
>>>>>
>>>>> Just some thoughts,
>>>>>
>>>>> Ian
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2013-05-13, at 2:05 PM, covici@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> You also have a voiceover option to make the cursor work like it does
>>>>>> under Windows.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> John Panarese <jpanarese@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Andrew,
>>>>>>> I am not sure about an SSH client, so I will leave that up to someone
>>>>>>> else who is knowledgeable in that area.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As for your editing area, remember that the cursors act differently as
>>>>>>> far as how VoiceOver identifies characters. On the Mac, the character
>>>>>>> the cursor passes over is spoken, while the Windows way is the
>>>>>>> character to the right of the cursor. This might be what you are
>>>>>>> experiencing.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As for an Office package, the Apple Pages and Numbers applications are
>>>>>>> the equivalent to Word and Excel.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Take Care
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> John D. Panarese
>>>>>>> Director
>>>>>>> Mac for the Blind
>>>>>>> Tel, (631) 724-4479
>>>>>>> Email, john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On May 13, 2013, at 2:34 PM, "Andrew Ireland" <andrew@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Guys,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I joined the list today. I have had my new Mac mini for just over a
>>>>>>>> week
>>>>>>>> and would be grateful if someone could clear up a few questions please.
>>>>>>>> This is me moving back to Mac after 5 years.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What is the best SSH client to use? I have tried terminal with no
>>>>>>>> success
>>>>>>>> at all. I need to connect to a CentOS system. A sighted friend
>>>>>>>> recommended
>>>>>>>> VSSH, however, I was reluctant to purchase it not knowing if it would
>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>> accessible with Voice Over.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I am experiencing a strange problem when composing a new e-mail
>>>>>>>> message in
>>>>>>>> Mac Mail. If I delete 1 character and type another character it would
>>>>>>>> appear to just delete the character I had just typed. If I interact
>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>> the mail window everything is fine. My question is, do you need to
>>>>>>>> interact
>>>>>>>> when typing a new message or using text edit?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I wonder if anyone can recommend the best Office package to enable word
>>>>>>>> processing and spread sheets?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Many thanks in advance for any information.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Andrew.
>>>>>>>>
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