[macvoiceover] Re: Ok, I give up!

Very respectfully, and I sincerely mean that to anyone who might be put off by this message, there are plenty of Windows lists out there. If you are using Windows on a Mac, you are*not* furthering the cause of the Mac operating system. You are just using the Mac hardware to run Windows. Therefore, your Mac has become your new WIndows PC. It is no different from running Windows on a Dell or an HP. I want to hear about people actually using the Mac operating system in a productive manner on a daily basis, not just using it as a cool new toy or a novelty or a back-up to their WIndows system. SOrry, just my $.02, and I mean no offense to anyone. I'm a dedicated mac user who has been forced to use Windows up until now, and I don't want to use it anymore. I'm not saying a person shouldn't use Windows and discuss it, but there are probably twenty or more lists devoted to that operating system. Thank for reading, and please do not feel slighted in any way by this message. 
On May 28, 2008, at 9:31 AM, Marshall F. Scott wrote:


Hi everybody,
I agree with Jane. I don't think that messages about using Windows screen readers on the Mac is that much off topic. Also, I don't want "Yet Another Mailing List" about Macs and accessibility. In fact, I'd like to have just one list on this topic. . 

Marshall




On May 28, 2008, at 8:05 AM, Jane Jordan (Gmail) wrote:
Keith and others. Apple *did* open up their operating system to use Windows, so there is *going* to be crossover, as regards discussing efficient ways of using it with the Mac. You can't have it one way or the other. Since Windows is now allowed to be an integral part of the system for those who choose to use it, it would be wrong to exclude any commentary--imncluding screen readers, or programs to help Windows run--on this list. 

Jane


On May 27, 2008, at 3:55 PM, Alex de Jong wrote:
I've almost lost interest in this list as it tells me absolutely nothing on 
using VoiceOver.  I blame my own laziness as well, but it's very
disheartening.

Alex


On 5/27/08 9:17 PM, "Keith Reedy" <WA9DRO@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Some times, I can't tell if we are trying to help folks to learn the 
MAC, or switch them to windows.

kr
On May 27, 2008, at 3:08 PM, MaryLee Perkins wrote:o, I don't want Yet Another Mailing List 


Dear VO users,
I have read many posts about people who are using Jaws and Window
Eyes, but no one has talked about System Access, except me. I have
tried it out at length and find it to be much easier to use on a web 
page than Jaws. So far  I have not found anything that I can't do
with the free System
Access at satogo.com
The teachers at the TN School for the Blind said that they prefer
System Access, too. You must use IE to launch the System Access, but 
once you do, you can use everything on the computer, or everything
that you could use with other Windows screen readers. I much prefer using my Mac, but if you have to use Windows, this is a good way to 
do it. You can start it up from any computer that has broadband
access to the net; don't have to have administrative rights to the
computer. Give it a try.
MLP


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