[macvoiceover] Re: E-mail and iTunes and other focus issues for Carlene and others.
- From: carlene knight <cknight@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 13:54:58 -0800
Thanks Keith:
I've got the mouse cursor set to ignore the voiceover one, already, but I don't
think I am using vo/command/f5 often enough. I never used to have this
problem. I mainly did the last upgrade to correct the Vo problem I had when
waking up the computer, and now it seems to be back anyway. Urgg! Thanks for
the tip. I used that command a while back to no avail but it has worked today.
On Nov 20, 2009, at 1:19 PM, Keith Reedy wrote:
> Folks,
>
> The popup button in Navigation, in Voiceover utilities has 3 choices,
> moves Voiceover curser,
> ignores Voiceover curser,
> follows Voiceover curser,
> Which tells the mouse how to act deserves a special look if you are having
> focus issues.
>
> Right now, I have it set to ignores Voiceover curser and life is pretty good.
> The thing you need to remember is if you are using this setting you will
> need to rout the mouse to the Voiceover curser with vo keys command f5 from
> time to time, but, where you have this button set will make a differents.
> ***If thingds are working well for you leave it alone, if its not broke,
> don't fix it!
>
> Keith Reedy
>
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> God gives His best to those who leave the choice with Him. J Hudson Taylor.
>
>
> On Nov 20, 2009, at 2:49 PM, carlene knight wrote:
>
>> thanks so much Keith. I think I am going to shut my computer down at night
>> instead of letting it sleep as it sometimes acts strangely when I wake it
>> up. I have a feeling that will help. If it doesn't, I will certainly let
>> you know. I've already tried the key strokes you suggested to no avail. It
>> doesn't seem to link the cursors. I will play with it some more. It's
>> behaving ok at the moment, but in 5 seconds it could start again. Thanks
>> again for your concern,
>>
>>
>> On Nov 19, 2009, at 10:51 PM, Keith Reedy wrote:
>>
>>> Carlene,
>>>
>>> If you feel that you are having focus problems, check where your mouse is
>>> located with VO keys-F5 and rout the mouse with voKeys-command-f5. This
>>> seems to take care of my focus issues. And if we need to get together on
>>> skype, iChat, or, the phone we will do that in order to find the answer to
>>> the problem.
>>>
>>> Keith Reedy
>>>
>>> Click the link below to download MP3's of Keith Reedy's music as a gift
>>> from Bibles For The Blind.
>>>
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>>>
>>> God gives His best to those who leave the choice with Him. J Hudson Taylor.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Nov 18, 2009, at 2:30 PM, carlene knight wrote:
>>>
>>>> I am still having a focus problem in mail and ITunes so maybe they are
>>>> related to Joel's problem somehow. It seems as though the mouse and vO
>>>> cursors aren't tracking properly.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Nov 18, 2009, at 11:22 AM, Ignasi Cambra wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> You probably already thought of this, but it really sounds as though you
>>>>> are touching the trackpad while typing...
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPod
>>>>>
>>>>> On Nov 18, 2009, at 1:18 PM, David Poehlman
>>>>> <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Joel;
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you are running snow leopard, there is only one thing I can think of
>>>>>> that might be giving you this type of problem. in vo utility, under
>>>>>> navigation, set mouse cursor to ignores voiceover cursor and that should
>>>>>> fix it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> otherly, make sure that you are not interacting and make sure that quick
>>>>>> nav is turned off.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Let us know if you need more help and how it goes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nice to see you here.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Nov 18, 2009, at 1:10 PM, Joel Zimba wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have had my mbp for two weeks now and I mostly love it. there is one
>>>>>> huge problem I am having.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> edit wndows. like in textedit or mail or Pages all seem to lose focus
>>>>>> or to wrap to the top of the window while I type.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I ca onl think this is a VO issue or my configuration it can't possibly
>>>>>> be normal functionality. sometimes it seems to happen at the end of
>>>>>> pages, where instead of running to a new line, the insertion point goes
>>>>>> to the top of the page. other times the window loses focus and goes to
>>>>>> a menu option.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It is inconsistent. It has not happened in this mesage as of yet.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I thought I was hitting the trackpad, but that is not the case.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> any help would be appreciated.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think the Mac world is more similar than different and I ave greatly
>>>>>> enjoyed the challenge of te past days.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> thanks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Joel
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Nov 18, 2009, at 12:25 PM, ashley wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> yes!!!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ash
>>>>>>> Personal website:
>>>>>>> www.ashleycox.co.uk
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Russell Solowoniuk"
>>>>>>> <rsolowoniuk@xxxxxxx>
>>>>>>> To: <macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 4:32 AM
>>>>>>> Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: mail question
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> RussellAgreed! It is easy to accidentally turn it on!
>>>>>>> On 2009-11-17, at 6:14 AM, David Poehlman wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> we need a configuration option to disable quick nav.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Nov 17, 2009, at 8:13 AM, Russell Solowoniuk wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You're welcome Carlene. I've had quick nav turn on accidentally...
>>>>>>>> not sure how it happened, but I didn't intentionally turn it on, and
>>>>>>>> after fighting with the problems you mentioned in Mail, checked the
>>>>>>>> quick nav keys only to find that they were turned on.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Russell
>>>>>>>> On 2009-11-16, at 10:31 PM, carlene knight wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks Russell. I seldom use QuickNav, but thanks for the
>>>>>>>>> suggestion. It's good to know that the problem exists when tabbing
>>>>>>>>> between the panes as well.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Nov 16, 2009, at 8:10 PM, Russell Solowoniuk wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Carlene,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I use the preview pane and tab from the message table into the
>>>>>>>>>> message content, and sometimes run into this. I end up in the
>>>>>>>>>> header area and can't get out, so have to close mail and open it
>>>>>>>>>> again. I did notice that one time when this happened, I had turned
>>>>>>>>>> on quick Nav in Safari and forgot to turn it back off, so this was
>>>>>>>>>> causing the problem. Something to check when you encounter this next
>>>>>>>>>> time.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> HTH
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Russell
>>>>>>>>>> On 2009-11-16, at 7:13 PM, carlene knight wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I have recently encountered an ongoing problem when viewing mail.
>>>>>>>>>>> It seems as though the cursor jumps all over the place instead of
>>>>>>>>>>> going from the preview pain to the message body when using vo/j. I
>>>>>>>>>>> might end up in status, headers, or scroll area. It's getting
>>>>>>>>>>> quite annoying. I have all of the cursors following each other
>>>>>>>>>>> except that the mouse cursor ignores the Voiceover cursor. That's
>>>>>>>>>>> the way I've had it for a long time, longer than the problem has
>>>>>>>>>>> existed. It seems as though the problem is getting worse every
>>>>>>>>>>> day. Any ideas? thanks.>
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