Eather does code factory so go figure where he is coming from > -----Original Message----- > From: macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:macvoiceover- > bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David Poehlman > Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 05:57 > To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: Apple Seed betas RE: listen to Keith about > ITunes > > apple does not allw anything to be revealed. even if you are > participating. > > I suggest you drop a note to accessibility and get assurance from them > whether vo users are participating. > cute. > > On Oct 31, 2009, at 8:48 AM, Bryan Smart wrote: > > I think you're being unnecessarily cute. I just wanted to be sure that > our interests are being represented. The general rules of betas are > that you don't discuss the details of unreleased software, or what is > discussed about the unreleased software on its forums. For example, I > can tell you that I'm currently participating in betas for Jaws, > CakeTalking, MobileSpeak, and others, and that doesn't make me super > cool for being included, nor is it breaking terms of an NDA to just say > that I'm participating. > > None of you secret people, who-ever you are, need divulge any details. > If you're beta testing, that means I don't have to. It would just be > good to know that some people are, in fact, participating. > > Bryan > > -----Original Message----- > From: macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:macvoiceover- > bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David Poehlman > Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 7:08 AM > To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: Apple Seed betas RE: listen to Keith about > ITunes > > If anyone is participating, they aren't allowed to say. > > On Oct 31, 2009, at 4:29 AM, Bryan Smart wrote: > > Is anyone on this list participating in any of the Apple Seed beta > programs? If not, we should get some people using assistive tech to > represent us in those. > > http://appleseed.apple.com > > There is also the Apple Seed program for developers. It is my > understanding that only those in the developer programs, that are > paying for premium ADC memberships are given seeds of new OS versions. > Premium ADC memberships cost around $500/year, from what I'm told. > > Bryan > > -----Original Message----- > From: macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:macvoiceover- > bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John Hess > Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 12:19 AM > To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [macvoiceover] listen to Keith about ITunes > > I have no doubt that Apple is aware of these problems and will correct > them. However, it might be prudent to write a kind note to > accessibility@xxxxxxxxx stating the problems you are finding. > REmember, kindness goes along way in getting things done. > > John W. Hess & Barclay the WonderLab > > > > > Click on the link below to go to our homepage. > > http://www.icanworkthisthing.com > > > > Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the link > below. > > //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover > > > > Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to > > macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web > > interface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover > > > > > > Click on the link below to go to our homepage. > > http://www.icanworkthisthing.com > > > > Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the link > below. > > //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover > > > > Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to > > macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web > > interface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover > > > > > > > > Click on the link below to go to our homepage. > > http://www.icanworkthisthing.com > > > > Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the link > below. > > //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover > > > > Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to > > macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web > > interface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover > > > > > > Click on the link below to go to our homepage. > > http://www.icanworkthisthing.com > > > > Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the link > below. > > //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover > > > > Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to > > macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web > > interface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover > > > > > > > > Click on the link below to go to our homepage. > > http://www.icanworkthisthing.com > > > > Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the link > below. > > //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover > > > > Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to > > macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web > > interface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover > > > > Click on the link below to go to our homepage. > http://www.icanworkthisthing.com > > Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the link below. > //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover > > Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to > macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web > interface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >