[macvoiceover] Re: Another trashes the MAC and Voiceover,

  • From: Buddy Brannan <buddy@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 12:43:41 -0400

I agree that this is very significant. The AT landscape is changing-- and for the better, from the perspective of the blind customer. Exciting times, guys, exciting times.

On Jun 11, 2009, at 12:18 PM, Chris Hofstader wrote:

While I've basically switched to Macintosh for most of my tasks, I do want to acknowledge that Rob Sinclair and his Access Technology Group up at Microsoft are also a creative, hard working and highly motivated group - they, however, being deeply under the weight of MS, though, cannot move as fast.

Recently, MS ATG has contributed $100,000 to NVDA, the free and open source screen reader for Windows. Mozilla gave them about a quarter million so the anarchists are taking hold of the MS steering wheel and guiding screen reading from an entirely user perspective. To my best recollection, all paid hackers on NVDA are also users of the product.

So, while I've fallen in love with the Apple gear, there are some pretty cool people doing pretty cool things elsewhere who deserve credit too.

Happy Hacking,
cdh
On Jun 10, 2009, at 9:49 PM, Marie Howarth wrote:

Yeah, very true. i am definitely going to finish some of the guides I started writing. Podcasts are great too. I love the whole community we all seem to have with each other. Learning from everyone else. This list being one of those resources. It has helped me out a few times to say the least.
:) I'll stop now

On Jun 11, 2009, at 2:35 AM, Mike Reiser wrote:

I absolutely love my mac mini, and will definitely try super duper. Let's also see if we can get apple to point people to documentation and sutch.

Mike
On Jun 10, 2009, at 6:01 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:

Thanks for this Keith but I think the main thing is that people really don't know what they're talking about or on about until they take a little time to use a product, this was clearly demonstrated to me yesterday by a friend, he rang me and told me he'd been able to finally get "hands-on" experience with an Apple Mac and he loved each of the very few minutes of time he had to play with the machine. This has resulted in him getting a new Imac and naturally I've offered to help where I can. Our greatest way of alerting the public to facts about Voiceover are the mediums of the Podcast and Keith's excellent web site, there are probably others but we have great things going for us in that we can do demos of everything about Voiceover and associated applications, all the user has to do is to download and he or she hears for themselves.

Now please excuse me for gloating here but I've been absolutely taken aback by the reaction my latest 2 podcasts have received - one on the excellent backup/restore software Superduper and the other being the first part of the Amadeus Pro tutorial, the next part will be up shortly - and the feedback proves conclusively to me that there's a huge appetite for this sort of stuff and blind people - just like the general public - aren't the fools that NFB make them out to be.


On 11/06/2009, at 1:20 AM, Keith Reedy wrote:

Hi folks,

This is in deed sad, but, not unexpected.

Actually, this kind of thing happens much less now than it did 4 years ago. Look at howmany people use the mac now.

You know, I decided, some time ago, that what I'm going to do, no matter who writes what, is to keep welcoming new comers to this list and continue to answer questions when I can, because, thats how people learn that there is an easier way to use a computer, Voiceover and the MAC.

Keith Reedy

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