[mac4theblind] Re: Jaws vs. voice over
- From: David Hilbert Poehlman <poehlman1@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 18:38:42 -0500
you have to check the single letter key navigation checkbox in the quick nav
commander.
On Feb 22, 2012, at 6:00 PM, Tracy Duffy wrote:
Since you are the 2nd person to bring this up, let me ask, is this new in Lion
or did it work in Snowleopard/ I thought when I started learning VoiceOver that
this was not possible. I just tried it on my computer and nothing happened.
On Feb 22, 2012, at 5:43 PM, Justin Harford wrote:
> Hi all
>
> Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm quite sure that you can make voiceover
> imitate Jaws Internet keystrokes when quick nap is turned on. Going to
> Safari. Start quick nav by pressing the left and right arrow keys
> simultaneously. Then, just pressing H should go to headings, L to links, etc.
> try it. It also works on an iPhone with a Bluetooth keyboard.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Feb 22, 2012, at 2:15 PM, David Hilbert Poehlman <poehlman1@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>
>> command-control-option in conjunction with many keys will do the same thing
>> that jaws does with single keys. also, you can configure vo to use command
>> with a letter on the web.
>>
>> press control-option-h-h to get a feel for all that you can do with vo. one
>> powerful feature of vo is the item chooser. press vo-i and you get a list
>> of all the items visible on the screen and you can narrow the list by typing
>> the name of an item.
>>
>> On Feb 22, 2012, at 5:09 PM, Tracy Duffy <tracyduffy@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>> Sorry. I was thinking of the fact that you can hit h for example with JJAWS
>> when you are on a website to find the next header. With VoiceOver you have
>> to set the rotor to header, so far as I know. That is just an example of why
>> I said what I did about not having key combinations. I'm sure there are key
>> combinations to do many things, but that is something that is very different
>> between the two and took some getting used to for me.
>>
>> On Feb 22, 2012, at 9:58 AM, Marcy Weinberg wrote:
>>
>>> With VoiceOver, there is the vo utility, where you can set up voiceover to
>>> behave as you would like.
>>>
>>> I find the key commanders most helpful to open many apps I use all of the
>>> time. In Safari, I find the rotor extremely useful to get to a heading,
>>> link, button, or form control that I am looking for.
>>>
>>> These things alone make my use of my mac with vo extremely fast and
>>> efficient, let alone the other things that can be set up in vo utility such
>>> as navigation, web, and speech.
>>>
>>> Marcy
>>>
>>> On Feb 22, 2012, at 7:54 AM, David Hilbert Poehlman wrote:
>>>
>>> this is incorrect, there are key combinations that you can use with vo to
>>> "jump to different things".
>>> On Feb 21, 2012, at 5:58 PM, Tracy Duffy wrote:
>>>
>>> The major difference is all the key strokes and commands. As far as the
>>> basic screen reading functions, they work similarly. Reading things on the
>>> interbnet is different because you have to choose headers or links or
>>> whatever instead of having key combinations that will jump to the different
>>> things. I am over simplifying it, but I think that gives you some idea.
>>>
>>> On Feb 21, 2012, at 4:33 PM, Benjamin Blatter wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello to all!
>>>>
>>>> I guess this topic may have been covered here a few times. but as far I
>>>> can remember not since I'm here.
>>>> I often hear or read that voice over is different to jaws. but usually it
>>>> stops there.
>>>> My question is what's so different to jaws? Whats the most important thing
>>>> to know or to consider for someone who grew up with jaws?
>>>>
>>>> Also I'd like to know if someone of you run windows with bootcamp and have
>>>> jaws or NVDA installed successfully? No problems with licencing because
>>>> it's a mac? I have Jaws 9.
>>>>
>>>> Maybe these questions sound a bit dumb LOL But I want to be sure that I
>>>> still can have an accessible windows on a mac in case I don't grasp voice
>>>> over or the whole apple way of thinking at the begin.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>> Ben
>>>>
>>>
>>> tracyduffy@xxxxxxxxx
>>> Isaiah 2:11 Human pride will be brought down,
>>> and human arrogance will be humbled.
>>> Only the LORD will be exalted
>>> on that day of judgment.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Jonnie Appleseed
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>>>
>>
>> tracyduffy@xxxxxxxxx
>> Isaiah 2:11 Human pride will be brought down,
>> and human arrogance will be humbled.
>> Only the LORD will be exalted
>> on that day of judgment.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Jonnie Appleseed
>> with his
>> Hands-On Technolog(eye)s
>> reducing technology's disabilities
>> one byte at a time
>>
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tracyduffy@xxxxxxxxx
Isaiah 2:11 Human pride will be brought down,
and human arrogance will be humbled.
Only the LORD will be exalted
on that day of judgment.
--
Jonnie Appleseed
With His
Hands-On Technolog(eye)s
Touching The Internet
Reducing Technology's disabilities
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