Okay. Badly worded. How about "Why do humans experience some things as painful?". And to answer John, I would point to the passage in Job..... "were you there when I created the leviathan",etc. Ecclesiastes is not my favourite ancient text, or the most hopeful one, by accident. It is the most comforting and optimistic tome in ancient texts. And if it helps, watch "Cube". Julie Krueger ========Original Message======== Subj: [lit-ideas] Re: p.s. Re: Re: The Problem of Evil Date: 3/9/06 1:36:35 A.M. Central Standard Time From: _robert.paul@xxxxxxxxx (mailto:robert.paul@xxxxxxxx) To: _lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx (mailto:lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx) Sent on: > I think what the question might be is why do humans have to experience > some things as painful... Julie, Is this a question about theodicy or biology? I really don't know what the force of 'have to' is. Robert ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html