Second e-mail oops of the day. I'm duct taping my fingers together now. Julie Krueger ========Original Message======== Subj: Re: [THEORIA] Is the World Mad? Date: 6/3/06 8:04:58 P.M. Central Daylight Time From: _JimK and JulieB_ (mailto:JimK and JulieB) To: _lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx (mailto:lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx) Sent on: My youngest daughter (12) tells me in no uncertain terms that animals are more important than people. They don't hurt each other on purpose for no reason -- only if they're scared or hungry. She's the reason for the birds, fish, mice, ferrets, cats, and dog. She tells me which of the mice are shy, which fight with each other, when a cat is sad or hungry or hurts somewhere. On the other hand, when we pass a cemetery she holds her breath in and exhales once we're past it. I asked her why. "They can't breathe anymore, Mommy, so it's not polite to breathe in front of them." She lets her mice and ferrets loose in her bedroom together. There has been no carnage. She tells me she has taught them to be nice to each other. She when little ran headlong arms outstretched toward our new neighbor's great dane and rottweiler. I couldn't catch her in time. She carressed them lovingly and whispered things in their ears. I'm not sure if she's destined for a Gorillas in the Mist avenue, a zoo-keeper, or a vet. But I've promised her that if she ever ever ever decides to own a snake as a pet I will never visit her in her home. Julie Krueger ========Original Message======== Subj: Re: [THEORIA] Is the World Mad? Date: 6/3/06 7:39:55 P.M. Central Daylight Time From: _aamago@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx (mailto:aamago@xxxxxxxxxxxxx) To: _THEORIA@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (mailto:THEORIA@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx) Sent on: I don't quite follow why humans are superior to "animals". Have you not noticed all the wars going on in the world? Are they being fought by animals? Animals don't rape, animals don't pillage, animals don't pollute, animals don't bully, animals make good friends and on and on. What animals haven't endured at the hands of humans. Serious question, whence the superiority? > [Original Message] > From: Delia Friedberg <deliaf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <THEORIA@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Date: 6/3/2006 6:00:06 PM > Subject: [THEORIA] Is the World Mad? > > The issue of medical experiments on animals is hot in UK, from stands and > leaflets in Central London, demonstrations against research institutes, > threats to people who have shares in pharmaceutical companies, to > desecrating the grave of a dead guinea pig farmer. > Correct me if I am wrong in thinking that the core belief at these people is > that human life is no more valuable as animal life, therefore humans don't > have the right to kill animals in order to save human life. > So, between the possibilty to save human life, including theirs and their > families at the cost of animal life, and having them die, they choose the > latter. > What does this say about their capacity to love? > They don't seem to be aware that on one side they equalize human life with > animal life and on the other side deny humans the right for survival that > any other animal has. It is then ok for an animal to kill a rabbit in order > to survive but a human is denied the right to kill it in order to survive. > > Best, > Delia > Is the world mad?