[lit-ideas] Re: making illegal legal and Mexican protests

  • From: "joseph" <wells001@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 2 May 2006 11:10:52 -0700

i live near camp pendelton, carlsbad Ca. and yes, my dear friend, even the 
mongolin wok has mexicans ---kinda  a shame...but it is like Mexican soul 
food!!!! loses something in the translation

  maybe its just me ..i should get used to it anymore

  Joseph wells


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Lawrence Helm 
  To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2006 11:05 AM
  Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: making illegal legal and Mexican protests


  Joseph,



  What state do you live in?  I live in Southern California and haven't found 
what you describe to be true here.  Of course I haven't anything to do with 
migrant farmers.  I don't know what sorts of rules prevail there, but our 
fast-food places are integrated - the ones I've frequented at least.  Although 
we have Chinese restaurants run by Chinese.  Also, I haven't experienced any 
Hispanic racism.  I know La Raza exists, but I haven't seen any of it and 
suspect it is not extremely popular among the people coming here. 



  When I was a kid, raking leaves and mowing lawns was good work.  This was 
back in the 40s so we made a lot less than 75 cents an hour - more like a 
dollar for the whole job however long it took - and it better be good or we 
wouldn't get the dollar.  I now pay my gardener $50 a week to take care of 
nothing but the lawns.  He has a Hispanic name but speaks flawless English, has 
a good sense of humor and seems to be about 26.  He drives a brand-new truck 
and has all the latest mowing equipment.  He is fast and reliable.  



  I have a Caucasian cleaning lady come in once a week.  She comes with a team 
of two or three, usually Hispanics and they take less than an hour to clean the 
house.  I pay her $75 a week.  I don't know what she pays her team.  They have 
a route and go from house to house in the course of the week. They always seem 
friendly and happy whenever I leave my study while they are here.



  Lawrence Helm

  San Jacinto, CA




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  From: lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
On Behalf Of joseph
  Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2006 10:14 AM
  To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  Subject: [lit-ideas] making illegal legal and Mexican protests





    Good Morning My distinguished members of Lit Ideas...thank you dearly for 
you posts on this subject. This a subject that has evoked passionate debate 
both pro and con. Normally I am known here for blurting out un substanuated and 
sometime emotional appeals to what ever subject is on the forefront. However on 
this topic, Illegal vs. legal immigration I bit my tongue. 



     while many of you presented wonderful arguments on the political, the 
religious and economical advancements of the protesting Mexicans, I still had 
some problems with their historical and , as it were, future motives. I am by 
all mean African American, or Black, or Negro or to some a Niggah! I was there 
in the late 60's when We as a people marched, and had to face the wrath of 
water hoses being turn on us as we marched. I was there when Martin I. King put 
himself on the line to elevate the human dignity of All races for equality , 
fair wages and social stability. I remember my grand Parents speaking of the 
long hot days  picking cotton. I remember my own Mother having to baby-sit the 
white man's children and I remember her cleaning his toilets for a meager 
earning. I also remember having to rake leaves for people like Lawrence Welk, 
for .75 cents and hour. 

     I said that to say this, when I hear the argument that " they will do the 
jobs that no American will do!" I get appalled

    Why you may ask, well because, that was the reason Martin Luther King 
fought for. To get a race of people out of slavery. So I see a race of people, 
in this case , the Mexican people issuing in their people to adhere a slavery 
posture. Does that make sense? We fight, and when I say WE , I mean both Black 
and White persons fought to abolish the slavery mentality and here comes a 
group that wishes to re inact slavery. Lets face it, working in the fields 
picking " whatever" and cleaning someones toilets for meager wages is, by all 
means Slavery!

      Also, I do think that if Mr. Caesar Chevez stood up from his grave he 
would not wish to see his people being paided sub-standard wages, no health 
care or workers compensation for their long hours. I don't think he would be 
happy with that arguement. So when all of these people took to the streets in 
protest I had to ask myself a very significant question.. and that Question was 
this?

      Do they think that this will change the mind-set of the US Congress and 
Senate? and Number two Do they really think that their mobilization will get 
something Illegal changed to legal, for free? 



       also, i may say this, when someone speaks of the Mexican people and 
their plight, i must add that they are the most racist people I have seen. I am 
serious, they are more racist than the pre- 60's ..the reason I say this is 
because I have yet to go into one Mexican restaurant and see anyone of any 
other race working there. More over, the same can be said for any other fast 
food or restaurant in general. My girl friend and I have dis continued our 
search for a decent Chinese food Restaurant because , there are simply no 
Chinese people cooking anymore..





      Joseph Wells




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